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C3G Legacy Library This is the archive for all the designs released in the original era of C3G. Feel free to post any figure specific questions in their individual books. |
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Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (breathing)
I like this. Definitely agree on using the domino mask mini, it has better pictures anyways so I was planning to use it here.
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Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (breathing)
Good call on the knockback/skulls on defense interaction! I like how that works out on theme. Solid card overall. Big fan of the limited to one other figure bonding powers. He isn't actually toting a lot of offensive potential on his turn, so I can't imagine that bonding turn being all that expensive. I guess that's the only part that feels little off for me. A single ranged attack of 4 is pretty pedestrian for him. Not sure where to put it though. The unblockable ranged counterattack that protects allies instead of himself is pretty neat.
Here's a thought, what if he kicks it up a gear once his partner goes down. Something like this: MILITARY DUO At the start of the game, choose another Unique Hero that is an Agent or Soldier you control. After revealing an Order Marker on the chosen Hero's card and taking a turn with that Hero, you may take a turn with Winter Soldier. You may not take any additional turns with other figures you control. If the chosen figure is not in play, after revealing an Order Marker on this card, Winter Soldier may attack one additional time. Then you get one attack with him and one attack with Black Widow while she's around, and if she goes down first then he starts giving you two attacks as long as he's fighting on his own (OM reveal). |
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Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (breathing)
He also counts blanks as skulls when adjacent and he'll often have a Captain America +1/+1, so it's a little more offense than it appears at first glance. Bonding figures like this are always a big boost to the figure they bond with so I try to keep their offense on the lower side. (The unblockable die also works when Bucky is wounded, not just his allies.)
I'm cool with that addition if other people like it. It's not something I think he needs, but getting angry after his buddy dies seems in character for Bucky. |
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Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (breathing)
Mis-read Buckshot. That does give him a little more dynamic offensive potential then.
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Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (breathing)
COMPETITIVE REVIEW BOARD CHECKLIST
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CONSISTENCY CHECKLIST (LONG FORM)
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Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (breathing)
I'll propose for initial playtesting.
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Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (vote for initial playte
yea
C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
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Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (vote for initial playte
yea
Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those. |
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Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (vote for initial playte
yea
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Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (vote for initial playte
yea
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Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (vote for initial playte
This passes
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Re: The Book of Winter Soldier (II) (waiting for initial)
C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM
NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Winter Soldier (II) Army Test Map: A Couple Puddles Units: Winter Soldier (II) (210), Captain America C3G, Sgt. Rock, U.S. Agent (855) VS Gorilla Grodd 2, Stilt-Man, Doctor Light, Green Goblin (855)
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___________________________________________________________ Army Test Map: A Couple Puddles Units: Winter Soldier (II) (220), Captain America C3G, Punisher (670) VS Doc Ock 2, Rhino, Kraven (670)
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___________________________________________________________ Army Test Map: A Couple Puddles Units: Winter Soldier (II) (220), Black Widow, Hawkeye 3 (610) VS Blacksmith, Golden Glider, Captain Cold 1, Trickster 1, Captain Boomerang 2 (610)
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Winter Soldier is a nice figure for any Soldier army. He’s definitely better in a Soldier build with Captain America and Sgt. Rock - with that army, it is really difficult to optimize a first target as the opponent. Sgt. Rock and Cap are difficult to kill, and both boost their allies and bond. Cybernetic Southpaw is especially brutal when boosted by Sgt. Rock and Cap. In other armies, Winter Soldier felt like a solid addition but nothing too crazy, he’s just a bonding hero with average attack. Tactical Buckshot can get some autowounds if you’re lucky. I’m happy with 220 so far taking all the results into consideration. |
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