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[Confred]

Leonardo
Mutant
Unique Hero
Ninja
Precise
Medium 4

Life 4
Move 6
Range 1
Attack 5
Defense 4
Points 115

Fearless Leader
After taking a turn with Leonardo, you may move up to 3 Ninjas you control up to 2 spaces each. All figures moved with Fearless Leader must be within 8 clear sight spaces of Leonardo prior to moving. Leonardo cannot be moved with Fearless Leader.
Protector 14
If a figure within 3 clear sight spaces of Leonardo attacks a friendly figure, and rolls at least one skull, roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 1-13, roll defense dice normally. If you roll a 14 or higher, immediately move Leonardo adjacent to that figure and attack it with a normal attack. If the figure survives, roll defense dice normally. If Leonardo is engaged when he uses Protector 14, he doesn't take any leaving engagement attacks.

Spoiler Alert!

Old Wording:
Protector 14
Whenever a figure within 3 spaces of Leonardo attacks a friendly figure, roll the 20-sided die. If you roll a 14 or higher, immediately move Leonardo adjacent to that figure and attack it with a normal attack. If the figure survives, its attack continues as normal. If Leonardo is engaged when he uses Protector 14, he doesn't take any leaving engagement attacks.

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Since his abilities require teammates, that is where we will start the testing.
I predict his Protector ability will be powerful, but once drawn into engagement he will simply become the focus and not just ping all over the place. His Defense 4 and Life 4 should keep him in check and his points down.
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I like how Leonardo wants the opponent to be engaged and thus force their attacks and trigger his Protector. This should encourage Donatello not to just sit back and watch. He will be adjacent, moved there with Fearless Leader, and protected by Leo and his 5 defense, all the while contributing with his observations. Donatello is second in command, but Leo is first, and when Leo is around, Donatello fights with the rest of them. +Flavor Points.
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I also like how Leonardo doesn't have Disengage. Not only does it save text space, it keeps his powers in check and point costs down.
Play Test Duo Testing
Leonardo & Donatello (205) vs. Deathwalker 8000 & 10th Regiment of Foot

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The Turtles win initiative and start their standard practice of sending out Donatello first to absorb what he can with Defense 5. Deathwalker activates and puts 1 wound on Donatello but nothing more. Leonardo activates and charges in just shy of engagement and then his Fearless Leader inspires Donatello to move 2, engaging him with two soldiers. Great power. I like it already. The waiting soldiers fire at Leonardo, wounding him twice, the other two fix their bayonets and stab at Donatello. Leo rolls a 1. Donatello doesn't block and is down two 2 Life. The second attacks and Leonardo rolls a 13+1 with Keen Observation = 14 = free move adjacent to the soldier and DW8k attacking the soldier for 4 skulls. The attack doesn't continue. That turn of events was quite nasty! Perhaps Leo should be 120pts, but I will hold my reserves. Also, I want to roll attack dice first and then trigger the ability if skulls are rolled. More testing will tell if I need to make that change.
From here it is downhill for Team Turtle Buster. Deathwalker shows why he sucks. Donatello attacks him with 3 skulls, but he blocks. Leo attacks him with 4 skulls, and he doesn't block. He dies with inflicting 1 wound total against a 90pt figure. The remaining regiment wiggles around engagement to attack Leonardo and try their best but ultimately fall to the mutants.
Turtles Win Round 3, Turn 1, Leonardo (1), Donatello (2).
The Turtles are glass cannons but have high mobility and attacks. They are potent, but I am not convinced that their points need boosting. I was afraid Leonardo's Attack 5 wasn't flavorful enough with most sword-wielding heroes having Attack 6, but after playing with him, Attack 5 is just right. So is his Defense 4 and Life 4 and Move 6. His Protector 14 is potent, but needs to be set up. Leonardo is more fun to play with than I originally gave him credit.

Changes v1.1
Protector 14
If a figure within 3 clear sight spaces of Leonardo attacks a friendly figure, and rolls at least one skull, roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 1-13 roll defense dice normally. If you roll a 14 or higher, immediately move Leonardo adjacent to that figure and attack it with a normal attack. If the figure survives, roll defense dice normally. If Leonardo is engaged when he uses Protector 14, he doesn't take any leaving engagement attacks.
This change reduces the potency of the power. Leonardo only dashes in when the teammate is actually in peril. Also, it requires clear sight, which was the intention of the original but was left out due to oversight.
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Play Test 1.1 Duo Testing continued
Leonardo & Donatello (205) vs. Marro Stingers (120)

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Since Donatello is practically a non-element that happens to benefit from Leonardo he can be a base test partner. This match should prove interesting if they defeat the squad since the others haven't even come close.
Marro Stingers win initiative and range both turtles, charging up with a roll of 18 and blasting Leonardo with a 3 vs. 0 roll and a 4 vs. 3 roll. Leonardo dead. Disgusting. Concede Round 1, Turn 1. The turtles are quite fragile and even 5 range can be too much for them.
Rematch This time the Stingers inflict 2 wounds and Leo survives. Donatello had order marker 1 and he advances to engage two Stingers on the left side of the pond while the 3rd remains on the right. He kills one. The pond skimmer moves closer to Leo and two more from the starting zone advance. All attack Leonardo and none hit. Leo runs through the pond and engages the 2 that just moved forward. His Attack 5 is beastly and reminds us why he is a glass Canon and not just glass. The 3 attack but their power fails and one explodes by Donatello. Protector 14 cares about the opponent's position and not Donatello, so even though Donnie was within 3 spaces, he couldn't have leaped in to save him. When I rename that power perhaps it will have 'Dash' in its title.. After that disabling defeat the Turtles knock them down in turn until 1 remains. He blows himself up.
Turtles Win: Round 2, Turn 3, Leonardo (2), Donatello (4)
Because of his fragility, he doesn't play as he should and flavor points are lost, thus some change needs to occur. His 'Protector' ability lands a free attack, often a kill, once in awhile but it moves him into engagement and from that point on he just takes the attacks and at Defense 4 Life 4, he cannot handle it. He should be tanking now that I think about it, he should be drawing that fire. Thus I propose his Life increase to 6. This way his low defense and potent power will still draw the attacks, but his higher life will keep him in the fight and he will still be able to keep his Attack/Defense stat where they are - I had loathed to make him 4/5 and equal Donatello. The full team test will give more insight

Result: Proposal to increase Life to 6, or +1(5) Life +1(5) Defense

Play Test Queue
Leonardo & Michelangelo (225) vs.
Leonardo & Raphael (230) vs.
Leonardo & Ninjas of the Northern Wind (225) vs.
Play Test Trios Testing
Leonardo, Donatello, & Michelangelo (315)
Leonardo, Donatello, & Raphael (320)
Leonardo, Michelangelo, & Raphael (340)
Leonardo, Donatello, & Ninjas of the Northern Wind (315)
Bonus: Leonardo, Donatello, & Major Q10 (355)

[Confred]

Naming Powers
My philosophy on naming powers in Heroscape is to tune it to be as generic as possible. This way the power can be used on different characters and in different contexts and gain bonus cool points for having those different contexts. For example, a heavy mounted knight squad could surely have 'Trample Stomp.' Secondly, having the power not directly reference the inspiration garners cool points when the player makes that connection.
Say for example we were making 'The Tick' instead of having a power named SPOOOON! the power is 'Warcry', then that ability can not only be reused, but fans of The Tick can make that connection and yell out SPOOOON! in person when activating the power. With the power as the quote name in place, people that aren't fans, those that don't know the character are isolated and the actual effect is unclear. He is doing a warcry. Call it as such. For that player they now know he is doing a cry to enhance his bravery and not using a spoon as a hidden weapon or something. And perhaps then, since the character is a specific hero, they can connect the points that The Tick has a specific warcry, which then in turn, according to Wikipedia, would be SPOOOON!.

With that said, I think I am going to rename 'Fearless Leader' to 'Squad Movement'.
Protector 14 will also change eventually. I am thinking something with 'Dash','Saving', 'Parry', or 'Riposte' in the name.. Even 'Intercept Attack'.. still brainstorming. But Protector 14 is definitely a placeholder.

[Confred]

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (430) vs. Sentinels x2 + Airborne Elite (430)
The battlefield is Turret Rocks
Leonardo is still being tested as Life4 Defense4

The Sentinels are menacing, especially to Mutants, even of the teenage ninja variety. They lumber along at 4 move, slowly encroaching, ready to sit on that +Attack Glyph (Boosting them to A5, A6 with height).

Leonardo scouts ahead and keeps his ninja squad in tow with his Fearless Leader power. I love this power.
At the end of Round 1, all Turtles are in range to attack the solitary Sentinel sitting on the Glyph.

Michelangelo climbs the hill adjacent to the stream and successfully Taunts the Sentinel off his Glyph thanks to Donatello's +1. The Sentinel attacks into his death. The forced attack Triggers Leonardo's Protector special power, but this is unintended and I cancel the trigger. But Mutant Alert does trigger and Sentinel B replaces A's position on the Glyph to where he will stay until the end of game, his Defense 7 too impervious.

The Airborne drop in range enough to throw their Grenades, but decide not too in lieu of 4 attacks at +1 or +1+1. However, they lose initiative. Michelangelo takes advantage of this and runs at the two aiming their guns at him. He whirlwinds them both dead.
The remaining two take out Leonardo.
Michelangelo chases the other two down, the first on the Rocks the second on the opposite stream hill. He taunts both into the water and counterstrikes them. He is a squad killing machine. But cannot do squat against hard-hitting, high defense heroes. and dies.
Donatello's high defense holds out for awhile but he has to get in the water to attack. The disadvantage was enough to put in those final wounds.

Due to Sentinel Networking, the Order Markers were safe from being Disabled. I wonder if that was intended. I noted it in their Books page.
Mutant Alert enabled the second figure to be right there in the action without OM waste.
Mutant Detection won initiative almost every round. Makes me excited to play with April O'Neil.

Leonardo is awesome. I like both of his abilities, even if Protector goes off only once a game if at all. His bonding is just enough. His Life and Defense add a certain tension. He just plays how I want him. But thanks to Taunt, Protector needs to be reworded. And his points have come under speculation, he might be 120.

Raphael just goes off. He Frenzied 7 or so times this game and put most of the wounds on the Sentinels, but 3 is still 3 and 7 is 7, so he wasn't enough. But his coolness still shown. He is like a turtle Wolverine. His Life 5 is perfect and I'm glad he is the only one with it.

Donatello continues to be the quiet duck, but he did boost Mikey for the key Sentinel kill. He is solid enough and eh, he's 90points.

Michelangelo was the eye-catcher this game. He is very good against squads. His Whirlwind Assault Special Attack possibly needs to be toned down to just a special power to keep his costs in check. I like that it is a SA because in think his weapons should be hard to defend against. But the power level of taunt (+height) + counter strike is so high that the Whirlwind might have to dropped altogether. For now perhaps it will just reduce to a special power. As is, he might be as much as 120points.

The Turtles are glass canons that work well together. I often worry that they are too fragile, but the weakness hasn't really adversely affected their gameplay but it has created a fun tension. I like them very much.

Result Whirlwind Special Attack --> Whirlwind Assault

[Confred]

Special Power Conflict Discussion
TAUNT 14
After moving and before attacking, choose one opponent’s figure within 3 clear sight spaces of Michelangelo and roll the 20-sided die. If you roll a 14 or higher, move that figure adjacent to Michelangelo and force it to attack Michelangelo with one less attack die. Figures moved with Taunt 14 are never attacked for leaving an engagement.

Triggers

PROTECT 14
If a figure within 3 clear sight spaces of Leonardo attacks a friendly figure, and rolls at least one skull, roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 1-13, roll defense dice normally. If you roll a 14 or higher, immediately move Leonardo adjacent to that figure and attack it with a normal attack. If the figure survives, roll defense dice normally. If Leonardo is engaged when he uses Protect 14, he doesn't take any leaving engagement attacks.

But shouldn't
Goal: Fix it.

[Confred]

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[wulfhunter667]

Not sure if you've thought about this or not, but, as you have it written currently...
If you use Splinter's Ninja Master ability to take turn with 4 Ninja Heroes, then use Leo's Fearless Leader ability, then 3 of your Turtles move 7 or 8 spaces, and April moves 14 spaces.
You really should watch how you word powers. This is the first time I have seen your work, and that's a major error.
I suggest first, you change Ninja Master to 2 Ninja Heroes, or it becomes WAY overpowering.
I suggest second, you change April's ability to "After you taking a turn with any Mutant Hero you control, ..."

[Confred]

I intended to have that movement versatility. I haven't gotten to the play testing of April or Master Splinter yet. But the abilities were intentional. Master Splinter is powerful, but his Mind Link is limited and he is expensive and frail. Play testing will tweak him to how he should be. The same is true for April. While playing with the Sentinels, I found that even +2 initiative to be valuable, so more than likely the Reporting initiative bonus will reduce to +4. Again testing will tell.

But for now, what I am stuck with and want the most help on is to undo the Protect + Taunt combo.

Thanks for your concerns Wulf.

[Confred]

Moving on with the interactions as is.

Play Test - Bonus Big Battle: Double Test
TMNT & Master Splinter (600) vs. Lex Luthor, Two-Face, & Street Thugs x5 (615)
All battles are at Turret Rocks
Lex Luthor is at 110pts
Leonardo is at Life 4, Defense 4
Whirlwind Special Attack is Whirlwind Assault
The criminal's initial plan for round one was to use the invulnerable Lex to acquire the objective/glyph and then utilize the throng of enhanced commons. BUT. Michelangelo doesn't care about Criminal Deception and Lex wouldn't last long at all. Perhaps then the focus will be to take out Mikey and then sit on the glyph.
Round 1: This was an active round with all of the bonding

Spoiler Alert!

t1: The Criminals win the initiative and two advance towards with glyph along with Two-Face and the other two climb the rocks to cut off any turtle advance that way.
The turtles stay right to avoid gunshot. Master Splinter is an interesting non-element. Is he too passive? Time will tell, but for now the Ninjas all moving each OM doesn't feel wrong, in fact they feel exactly like a squad, a team. Splinter is a passive force? Of course he is! Meditating probably. Donatello takes the hill poised for Glyph grabbing and confident in his defensive holding. Leo and Mikey hide behind the ruins. Raph heads left to cut off that end, confident he can handle some 2/2's. A lot has happened just now for just 1 turn. Perhaps Master Splinter should be 220points. Testing continues...
t2: The bonded Crime Lord climbs his own hill and the coin agrees. Donatello takes one wound. Two-Face hops into the water expecting to win another coin flip and climb back out and onto the glyph. The coin disagrees.
The attack dice are heavy and many skulls are rolled. Raphael receives two wounds.
Donatello ends his movement in the water. Leonardo encourages him back out and onto the glyph. Michelangelo free moves into the water. Raphael inches closer to the thugs. Michelangelo moves out of the water and adjacent to a thug, he attempts a taunt a different thug hoping to free move Leonardo to a better position by warping him in with protect and setting up a whirlwind just in case, but fails. His attack doesn't. Raphael is capable of engaging both thugs but with height disadvantage. 2+1 < 3+1 and he kills both, failing frenzy. Donatello is in observation range of everybody but Raphael. Leonardo can protect everybody but Raphael.
t3: Two-Face climbs out of the water and is adjacent to Donatello, instead of attacking him and triggering Protect, he attacks Leonardo, illegally, but it isn't caught and continues wounding the fearless leader. Three thugs from behind advance and the wave1 remainder climbs the hill shooting Donatello for 1 wound. The other misses. The other two climbed the rocks again and are out of range.
Raphael runs up the hill and attacks with an impressive 3+1+1 against 2 and fails once but not twice. His frenzy fails and is one space too many away from Donnie, but the enhancement wouldn't have assisted anyway. Ninjitsu Enhancement could be a potential name replacement for Keen Observation. But I don't like the shift in flavor and not all ninjitsu is represented by the d20.
Michelangelo moves behind a ruin and fails his taunt.
Donatello wounds Two-Face
Leonardo jumps into the water
Round 1 Summary: The turtles are a deadly ninja squad, but the targets are all weaker than them and there is no contest. But, their numbers are large and that might be enough. And still, its 5 losses (120) vs. 5 losses (109), favoring the bad guys.
Master Splinter (0/3), Michelangelo (0/4), Leonardo (1/4), Donatello (2/4), Raphael (2/5);
Lex Luthor (0/4), Two-Face (1/4), Street Thugs (4/20)
Lex Luthor hasn't done much yet, but the presence of his anti-disengagement effects are subtly felt. I currently like him at 90points with a nod to Ne-Gok-Sa and a wink at Raelin.

Round 2: The map favors the Turtles

Spoiler Alert!

t1: Criminals win initiative. Two-Face shuffles engagement positions and legally attacks Leonardo for 1 wound. Protect has a nice rattlesnake effect to it, encouraging players to work around it. 2 Thugs with height roll 3 and 2 skulls respectively but Mikey blocks them both. The other 2 also whiff against Raphael. Leonardo (3/4)
The problem with Range 5 shooters is that there is no kiting; Michelangelo rushes his attackers and whirlwinds them. Funny thing that it was reduced from a SA to a SP to reduce his powerlevel, but now he is boosted by the glyph. He annihilates both of them. +6% chance Whirlwind gets dropped. Donatello bludgeons Two-Face for 1 wound. Raphael kills his adjacent foe and fails the Frenzy. If KO added 2 to dice rolls he wouldn't have failed, but there is little chance for that adjustment to happen. Leonardo climbs ashore to the island for an impressive 4 skull attack, Two-Face defends with 3 shields. Michelangelo free moves behind the ruins. Two-Face dies(4/4), Street Thugs (7/20).
The Turtles are a synergy packed, well-oiled machine. But are they overly oiled? Have they passed that point that Grungebob warned about, that line of too much interaction?
Regardless, my fears of the Taunt+Protect combo are subsiding because I'm liking the play of it. I like taunt moving Leo out of water and into better position. I like Leadering the gang through water (they still only move one space, but that's one space more.)
I'm liking Leonardo at Life 4 Defense 4. With all 4 going at once, the fragile quality of them becomes more balancing. Raphael still feels good at Life 5.
I'm thinking the 4 Turtles will equal 500 instead of 470; Splinter will equal 200 and have the arbitrary Ninja aura removed, possibly reducing his link to 2; Michelangelo's Whirlwind returns as a SA but with 2 dice.
t2: The Criminals just need to play tighter and it's still anybody's game. 3 Thugs advance to maximum range versus Raphael (chosen for his power and proximity). The forth moves closer so that Michelangelo would have to risk a coward's reward to get off the whirlwind on the other 3. The 3 all all miss Raphael. The 4th ignores the red turtle then and attacks Leonardo. 1 skull versus 4 skulls. Leonardo dies(4/4). Losing Leonardo is a hard loss; If they take out the other two, Donatello will be a sitting duck on that island.
Michelangelo Changes: Whirlwind Assault > Whirlwind Special Attack. (Attack 2.)
Raphael advances to the nearest Thug to clear a path and hopefully Frenzy into the next wall. He whiffs and then clobbers; Street Thugs (8/20). Frenzy fails (6). Michelangelo engages 2 Thugs and attempts to Taunt the third, but fails (9). The newly nerfed whirlwind pops one and misses the other; Street Thugs (9/20). Donatello holds back on the glyph until more are taken out. Losing Leonardo definitely was felt. While Protect never went off, losing it felt as if a great shield was removed and new vulnerabilities revealed. The loss of movement bonding was also acutely felt - a testament to his abilities I suppose.
t3: Thugs maximize their distance and placement, one gets height. All 4 whiff on Michelangelo.
Mikey shuffles adjacency and is now next to Thug_00 and Lex. He considers taunting Lex but successfully Taunts Thug_03 instead. 1 attacks into 2 and Thug_00 dies in turn with the normal attack. Raphael pops another for 4skulls vs unrolled. Street Thugs (12/20).

Round 3: Both Squad Killers Remain; Anybody's Game?
t1: Criminals continue initiative. 4 Thugs withdraw from Lex, who's holding both turtles engaged. Two get height. All target Mikey but still suck. Michelangelo (1/4).
Raphael pops his only engaged Thug and cannot attack Lex or roll 16 for Frenzy. Street Thugs (13/20)
Michelangelo considers taunting Lex but doesn't and fails anyway. Street Thugs (14/20)
Donatello figures now is as good of a time as any to leave his perch since 3 Thugs are headed his way.
With Life 4, 2 unblockable hits are scary.
t2: The Turtles pale a bit as Lex's plan becomes more clear. The Thugs are no longer in range of engagement. Lex has both turtles tied down as 2 Thugs are aiming at a disadvantaged Donnie while creeping ever closer to Master Splinter.
Michelangelo (2/4), Donatello (3/4).
Michelangelo critically fails (1) at taunting Lex and passes.
Raphael rages past Lex and engages two of the withdrawn thugs. He takes 2 wounds! for his actions. Raphael (4/5), Street Thugs (15/20).
Donatello emerges from the water and engages the two closest to his sensei.
Street Thugs (16/20).
t3: Lex Luthor completely owned the Turtles in his trap. This was the most awesome turn of events in some Heroscape history.
All Thugs have height.
Two Shoot Raphael; Raphael dies (5/5). One shoots Donatello; Donatello dies (4/4). One shoots Michelangelo; Michelangelo (3/4).
The Thugs were in perfect count and placement.
Michelangelo has one wound left, is engaged with Lex Luthor. Only a max Taunt can save him. Master Splinter is out of range.
Amazing; Breathless.

Spoiler Alert!

Three guns pointing at him, three attacks of three against a defense of 4 and 1 life. The image of Raphael getting shot in back is still fresh in his mind. Michelangelo makes a break for it. Shield Shield! He runs adjacent to two Thugs. Taunts (16) the third setting up a perfect Whirldwind. The Thug's forced attack with height reveals only one skull. Michelangelo rolls 2 blanks, 2 skulls. Round 3 over.

Round 4: Bold Maneuvers

Spoiler Alert!

t1: Master Splinter wins initiative. He can hug the far wall and be exactly 6 spaces away from height disadvantage and makes a full sprint to find cover behind the ruins. Life 3 Defense 3 creates an antsy vibe with this character. He is fleety, eyes darting everywhere, noticing everything, and utterly in control. His Move 7 also felt spot on as he darted by.
The closest Thug4 drops down from height and reaches the other end of the ruin but the bent leg of it blocks LOS. Thugs 2, & 3 cover their side of the river setting up for their attacks next turn. Thug1 sets position on the rocks.
t2: Splinter momentarily contemplates hiding in the ruins and making them come to him, but the hill will give height advantage. So he takes the hill and rolls 5 skulls vs unrevealed. Street Thugs (17/20). He feels like an assassin; this is great.
Thug3 takes the opposite hill, Thug1 and 2 take the rocks, and all attack and height equality. The energy is tight. Master Splinter (1/3).
t3: Splinter darts down his hill and up the rocks adjacent Thug2 both not both. 4 skulls. Street Thugs (18/20). Splinter feels like both a Ninja Master and a Rat.
Thug1 pulls back to the opposite rocks. Thug3 unable to find range and unable to regain level ground, sets himself at the base of the rocks so that Splinter has to attack him and keep Thug1 out of range. Water is to either side. Attacks miss.

Round 5: There Will Be Blood

Spoiler Alert!

t1: Splinter is the Master of initiative. Street Thugs (19/20)
Thug1 maxes is his range and sets up his next turn. miss
t2: He chases down the last target, move 7 bounding elevations like it's nothing. Street Thugs die (20/20)
Order Marker X is revealed; Lex takes OM 2 and moves to before the rocks so that he can attack but not be attacked back with advantage.
3 skulls *_*
1 shield *-*
Game Over.
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Wait!
Height Advantage!
+1 Shield.
t3: Master Splinter dive tackles Lex. They scramble. Lex leaves engagement and takes height advantage. Feeling his own blood, his own wounds, for the first time in a long time, he sneers as he looks down his barrel at the panting rat. 4 Attack dice against 3 Defense and 1 life. Dodged!
Lex Luthor (1/4), Master Splinter (2/3).

Round 6: The Lord Falls

Spoiler Alert!

The round starts with Lex Luthor at Height Advantage.
Initiative: Master Splinter
t1: The two Brawl it Out. Rapid flicks of a Tanto Katana against street fighting. Luthor wrestles himself free and up the nearby rock, turning, shooting. 3 vs 2. Lex Luthor (2/4).
Master Splinter dies (3/3)
Criminals: Lex Luthor (2/4), Two-Face (4/4), Street Thugs (20/20)
TMNT: Master Splinter (3/3), Leonardo (4/4), Donatello (4/4), Raphael (5/5), Michelangelo (4/4)
Criminals Win - Round 6, Turn 1

Results: Whirlwind Assault changes back to Whirlwind Special Attack (Attack 2)
All Turtle stats pass
Splinter's stats pass
Additional Points testing required
More full team battles required

[Confred]

The first test was a good one, the next will be against more traditional units. The team played well, but perhaps too well. A focus on points is in order. Master Splinter might also be tested with controlling only two figures.

TMNT and Master Splinter (600)
Versus
The Marro Hive, Tul-Bak-Ra, Ne-Gok-Sa, Marro Stingers x2, and Marro Drudge x2 (600)

[Griffin]

Originally Posted by wulfhunter667

You really should watch how you word powers. This is the first time I have seen your work, and that's a major error.

That is not very friendly way of expressing your concerns. I don't think anyone appreciates a "custom noob" telling them that their customs are a "major error". From what I can tell, Confred is trying to make a powerful yet expensive army of Turtles and allies that work very well together. Now he may be raising the bar a bit in terms of synergy, but at least he is playtesting and making adjustments based on those playtests. Overall, I think Confred is a responsible, creative, and innovative designer, and is doing a great job over here.

[Confred]

Originally Posted by Griffin

Now he may be raising the bar a bit in terms of synergy, but at least he is playtesting and making adjustments based on those playtests. Overall, I think Confred is a responsible, creative, and innovative designer, and is doing a great job over here.

This raising of the bar is the direct reason why I think they should be higher in points. Individually they are balanced. And together they don't play as if they are broken. In fact they play frighteningly close to how I imagined them. But not having powercreep is very important to Heroscape. For that alone I think the total army cost should be 700 points or so. The next test, which should be up by Wednesday will address this in particular.

Spoiler Alert!

ps: Thanks for the kind words and defense.

[Griffin]