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Re: [AotV] Pre-Brainstorming Thread
It may have come up in the Discord way back. Here's another power I came up with, not necessarily for these guys (though if it was the theme in my head is maybe their appendages were limited to either running or grappling/attacking at one time).
Move 7/Attack 1 [POWER NAME] Before moving [unit], you may subtract up to 3 from [unit's] Move this turn to add that number to [unit's] Attack. Arena of the Valkyire - Help create Heroscape's next Master Set! Trade List C3V Brainstorm never not funny Pepperony - 14/09/13 |
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Re: [AotV] Pre-Brainstorming Thread
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I'm a fan of giving the Space Shrimp some variation of Iron Tough for the indirect Ozuul synergy. I like it slightly more as a renamed Iron Tough that doesn't protect against normal attacks, though, likely with 3-4 base defense to account for their weakness.
I'm not particularly sold on subtracting 3 from move to add 3 to attack, though. In most cases, it wouldn't actually be a decision point, since players would just either choose the attack bonus if they can or the movement if they have to. @Pumpkin_King I thought that I remembered something along the lines of discussing the Shrimp snatching Order Markers off of defending figures, but nothing concrete comes to mind for me. If we want them to have light synergy with Ozuul, then I don't think that Order Marker removal is what we're looking for (the main benefit to him would be sticking enemies in place, when he already doesn't really want to be tied down in engagement). Some kind of way to keep up with him and an increased defense against Special Attacks would work better for him. Proud Member of Platyfly!
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#135
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Re: [AotV] Pre-Brainstorming Thread
Honestly, it would be kind of funny if they were some kind of void parasites - being able to be yanked along with his gravity fluxes without harm, having adapted to whatever form of life Ozuul is.
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#136
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Re: [AotV] Pre-Brainstorming Thread
An idea I've been tossing around for the porcelain rhino squad was a shattering power, where they do damage to nearby figures after they are destroyed. I thought a neat combination with that would be a magical cheerleading power: you can use the rhinos as hubs to pump up your troops but you run the risk of them exploding on you; alternatively you can run them into battle but you lose out on a dice buff.
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Re: [AotV] Pre-Brainstorming Thread
Any thoughts on whether we should include a "standard rule" for the Magic:AotP sand terrain in our AotV master set? I was thinking we could make it like heavy snow/slippery ice where each map can designate whether they are using the rule or not, or if a map is set to use the rule it can still be optional. Just would be cool to have a new terrain type in tournaments.
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Re: [AotV] Pre-Brainstorming Thread
I am against any special rules for the few 3D tiles that we have to work with. This is a Master Set meant to be a suitable introduction to the game, not a way of adding new terrain to the tournament scene.
Using just our normal set, any special rules such as quicksand would quickly become oppressive if they include the flat cardboard, and anything using the 3D terrain essentially means that we would have no normal height available for our scenarios. We could just say that these special rules are "off" whenever we need them to be, but if that's going to be 80% of our content (and require some text such as "Ignore these rules" at the start of most of our scenarios), then I'm more inclined to let fans come up with their own special rules for this terrain outside of the set if they want to. The only terrain pieces that I could see us baking rules into are the "weirded out" spaces on the other side of the SoI sets (rather than being left for scenarios as we intended), but those are all in fixed layouts and it then limits what we can do in our scenarios even further. I'm not sure that map-makers will really want to use our scenario rules whenever they use those tiles, to be honest, so I'm not overly enthused about that idea, either. Proud Member of Platyfly!
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Re: [AotV] Pre-Brainstorming Thread
Personally I'd love to create a terrain rule for the sand tiles, but that's a fair point about it being the only hexes with height in this set. Either way I think I'll house rule them.
And I'd rather do the sand hexes than the weird tiles. As you say their fixed layouts really limit our options. So probably nothing new here. Arena of the Valkyire - Help create Heroscape's next Master Set! Trade List C3V Brainstorm never not funny Pepperony - 14/09/13 |
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Re: [AotV] Pre-Brainstorming Thread
I'll totally house rule the sand tiles for when I need quicksand. I just don't think that AotV is the place for building "official" rules into them, given how limited our terrain is.
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Re: [AotV] Pre-Brainstorming Thread
Had a kind of crazy idea for Kiora that I figured I'd throw out here. Might be too weird for the purpose of this set, but it can't hurt to see what people think.
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I think this unit would be a ton of fun to play, and allow for some really interesting armies based around unique heroes. I could definitely see how it might break the game a little too fundamentally for the purpose of this master set though. For what its worth, the wording for the power is actually semi-official, as it's based off the scenario rules for the Marvel Masterset scenario "A Very Mad Genius" on the last page of the Marvel rulebook. I could also imagine a more restrained version of this power which would only allow figures to use special attacks on the destroyed figure's card, although I don't think this is quite as thematically true to what we know about Durnipia, since Valguard doesn't have a special attack. Of course theres some potential timing issues with Finn and Thorgrim and the question of whether they go on Durnipia's card or somewhere else when they die, but I do think that's something that could be clarified with a R&C if we thought the power was worth it. Anyway, feel free to let me know what you all think |
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I like it. I think a goal in our limited discussions about this character was a healer with unique mechanics for healing, and that certainly fits that bill.
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Re: [AotV] Pre-Brainstorming Thread
Certainly an interesting power set. Might be a nightmare to make sure there aren't broken combos in there somewhere, lol.
Also an idea from the Discord for Arlinn down the line if we're still trying a Native American angle: some kind of "spirit of the wolf" power that pays homage to her MtG character as well as ties her thematically to VC's Teeth of the Makwa. Arena of the Valkyire - Help create Heroscape's next Master Set! Trade List C3V Brainstorm never not funny Pepperony - 14/09/13 |
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