The Book of Hippolyta

[Soundwarp SG-1]

yea

[MrNobody]

Yea

[IAmBatman]

This passes. Gaia thanks you.

[IAmBatman]

Thanks! Looks great! I was letting her activate any mix of Amazon/Olympian squads and heroes up to two in the original version, but the initial showed that was a bit too strong. I'm liking where she's at and looks like the points are holding up, which is great!

Originally Posted by Shiftrex

[Karat]

Might want to change the name on the playtest sheet

I believe he played her with Alexh12 too.

Looks like she is holding up though.

[IAmBatman]

Eh, no comments from AlexH12, so I'm not worried about crediting them.

[Karat]

[IAmBatman]

Credit and points demand commentary!

[Karat]

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT HIPPOLYTA

Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 390-410?
- Give a brief overview. This was a slaughter which I think had more to do with more efficiency for the Amazons and really poor Mass Psychic Assault Rolls for the Martians. I think they only succeeded 4 times out of roughly 24 attempts.
Map: Ivy's Greenhouse
Units: Hippolyta, Wonder Woman (JL), Wonder Girl (Donna), 3xAmazon Warriors, Howard the Duck (1,200) vs 6xWhite Martian, Martian Manhunter (I)

Spoiler Alert!

Wonder Woman starts with all 3 markers.
R1
Amazons have initiative. In T1 Hippolyta advances with Howard and her Warriors move up; Manhunter flies up and calls a Martian up. In T2 Hippolyta calls up Wondergirl and another set of Warriors; Manhunter holds his position calling up another Martian. In T3 Hippolyta calls up Diana and sends some of her Warriors up; Manhunter moves onto the bridge taking out a Warrior and calls up 2 more Martians.
R2
Amazons have initiative. In T1 Hippolyta sends Diana to engage Manhunter giving him a wound and sends some Warriors up; Manmhunter hits Diana for a wound and calls up 4 Martians. In T2 Hipolyta sends Donna up and calls up the last of her Warriors; Manhunter hits Diana for a wound and calls up 2 Martians. In T3 Hippolyta moves up with Howard giving a Martian 3 wounds and sends her Warriors in giving another Martion 2 wounds; Manhunter hits Diana for a wound and cals 2 Martians up.
R3
Diana removes a marker. Amazons have initiative. In T1 Hippolyta has Diana hits Manhunter for a wound and sends her Warriors in giving a Martian a wound; the Martians fail to Psychically Assault the Amazons with 6 rolls! In T2 Hippolyta has Diana hit Manhunter for 2 wounds and has her Warriors close ranks; the Martians Psychically Assault Diana for a wound (5 failures). In T3 Hippolyta finishes off a Martian and calls up her Warriors who surround a Martian (4) and hit him with a Spear Volley for a wound; a Martian flies up and the Martians Psychically Assault the Amazons taking out a Warrior.
R4
Diana removes a Marker. Martians have initiative. In T1 a Martian advances and the Martians Psychically Assault giving Hippolyta a wound and taking out a Warrior empowering Donna; Hippolyta Sends Donna to engage a Martian giving it 3 wounds and has the Warriors finish off a Martian and wound another. In T2 the Martians Psychically Assault Hippolyta for a wound; Hippolyta has Donna finish off a Martian and has the Warriors advance wounding a Martian. In T3 Manhunter finishes off Diana and moves himself and 2 Martians up; Hippolyta sends Donna in finishing off Manhunter and sends in the Warriors unleashing a Volley of Spears finishing off a Martian.
R5
Martians have initiative. In T1 a Martian takes to the bridge and the remaining 2 Martians fail to Psychically Assault; Hippolyta strikes down a Martian. In T2 OM on Martian; Hippolyta sends in Donna to engage a Martian giving it 2 wounds. In T3 the last Martian hits Donna for 3 wounds; Hippolyta has Donna attack the last Martian but is blocked and she has the Warriors reposition.
R6
Amazons have initiative. In T1 Hippolyta has Donna strike at the Martian but is blocked and a Warriors close in but all miss the Martian; the Martian finishes off Donna. Hippolyta flies up behind the last Martian with Howard in tow hitting the Martian for a wound and having her Warriors finish it off for the win.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? The Amazons won with Hippolyta bearing 2/5 wounds and an unused Earth Ritual, Howard the Duck unwounded, and 2xAmazon Warriors remaining.

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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 390-410
- Give a brief overview. This seemed to be a more even match but the Amazons definitely had the upper hand here.
Map: Ivy's Greenhouse
Units: Hippolyta, Wonder Woman II, Wonder Girl (Donna), 3x Amazon Wasrriors (1,200) vs Proxima Midnight, Black Swan, 3xShadow Demon, 1xThunderers of Qward(1,200)

Spoiler Alert!

R1
Amazons have initiative. In T1 Hippolyta sends Diana and a squad of Warriors up; Proxima and Swan move up. In T2 Hippolyta sends Donna and another Squad of Warriors up; Swan and Proxima move up. In T3 Hippolyta advances with her last squad of Warriors; the Thunderers advance and the Demons stalk the shadows.
R2
Amazons have initiative. In T1 Hippolyta has Diana engage Proxima and sends her Warriors up to Support; the Demons stalk the shadows as the the Thunderers advance. In T2 Hippolyta advances and sends her Warriors up giving Swan a wound; the Demons stalks the shadows as the Thunderers take out a Warrior. In T3 Hippolyta advances and sends her Warriors close in throwing a volley of Spears but they can't hit Swan; Proxima hits Diana for 4 wounds and Swan takes out a Warrior.
R3
Amazons have initiative. In T1 Hippolyta has Diana attack Proxima but she is blocked and the Warriors miss Swan with a Volley of Spears; Proxima misses Diana and Swan takes out a Warrior enraging Donna. In T2 Hippolyta has Donna move in Lassoing Proxima to height disadvantage and the Warriors close in on Swan giving her 3 wounds with a Volley of Spears; Swan takes out a Warrior and Proxima misses Donna with her Spear. In T3 Hippolyta has Donna give Proxima 5 wounds and the Warriors close in missing Swan with a Volley of Spears; the Demons stalk the Shadows as the Thunderers give Diana 2 wounds.
R4
The Black
Order has initiative. In T1 Proxima one shots Donna from low ground as Swan misses a Warrior; Hippolyta has Diana engage Proxima from height finishing her off and the Warriors close in finishing off Swan with a Spear Volley. In T2 the Demons stalk the shadows as the Thunderers miss Diana; Hippolyta has Diana fly behind a Demon hitting it for a wound as the Warriors advance finishing of a Thunderer. In T3 a Demon invokes the Touch of Death killing a Warrior; Hippolytya has Diana finish off a Demon and the Warriors fail to down the last Thundrer with a Volley of Spears.
R5
Amazonionas have initiative. In T1 Hippolyta has Diana fly in and engage both Demons slaughtering one and giving the other 2 wounds and the Warriors close in finishing off the last Thunderer; the last Demon finishes off Diana. In T2 Hippolyta flies up striking down the final demon for victory.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? The Amazons won with an unwounded Hippolyta with an unused Earth Ritual and 4/9 Warriors remaining.

THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: I like what she brings to the Amazons. Every power seems useful and thematic and she seems close in cost but maybe a little below where she should be. 390 is a little hard to build around for the Amazons currently so I'd almost edge her up to 400 to help her pair with the Warriors better.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: I never got to use Earth Ritual as she never took enough damage in my games. I can see it being useful though. I like what she adds to the Amazon faction. Placement with her can be tricky since you need to keep her in clear sight and within 6 spaces of her Amazons. Might have just been my luck here but they seem to be coming in slightly hot so I might edge her upwards a little which, as I said above, could help with army building too. Ultimately though, I think she is probably fine anywhere from 390-410 and maybe even a smidge higher if you wanted.

[IAmBatman]

Hmm, so that's 3 medium wins and 2 close losses in 5 games since settling on this version. Does seem to be coming in a bit hot. Is a 10-20 point bump enough or do we want to see more testing here?

[MrNobody]

I feel fine with a 10 point bump, since I agree with Karat that a round number seems good for Amazon army building.

[IAmBatman]

It's good for army building with Wonder Woman (I) and the Amazon Warriors at least (Hippolyta, Wonder Woman (I), and Amazon Warriors (x3) for 1000 is solid). Doesn't leave you with a ton of obvious builds for Wonder Woman (II), Wonder Woman (JL), Wonder Girl (Donna), or Wonder Girl (Cassie-I), though.