The Book of Ebon Armor

[flameslayer93]

Parmenio's probably just considered old rules, and D&D book is new updated rules. At least Parmenio got a tiny buff from it.

[Astroking112]

From the conversation in Parmenio's thread, it seems like the consensus is that his ruling is incorrect and outdated.

Would this be something that could be formally clarified as a R&C in the OP? I think that the space that the Ebon Armor spawn on from a LEA is significant given their engagement power, and I know that in the past I and a few others have played it the other way.

[kevindola]

I know @heroscaper2010 quoted the BftU rulebook to me in a game just last week involving Count Raymond and a figure leaving engagement from 5 spaces away to 6 spaces away from the Count, in regards to when the LEA is applied which I think resolves the question:

From BftU Rulebook - Definition of Leaving Engagement Attack

Leaving Engagement Attack: A figure that moves out of an
engagement with another figure may become subject to a
“leaving engagement attack.” Normally, 1 attack die is rolled
against the leaving figure, and no defense is allowed. Stealth,
Flying, and Disengage special powers (among others) allow a
figure to leave an engagement without taking an attack. If a
figure receives 1 or more wounds from a leaving engagement
attack, for the sake of rules resolution, it is considered to have
received the wounds while on the last space in which it was
engaged with the figure that rolled the leaving engagement
attack. See also: Engagement.

[dok]

Yes, we go by the BftU ruling and ignore the Parmenio ruling. Ebon respawns on the space the figure occupied before it attempted to leave engagement.

[AndreThaGiant]

Awesome, thanks for chiming in guys!

[AndreThaGiant]

I realize this synergy list is tedious to keep up with, but Morgan's Riflemen, Millerson, Wastewalker Gage, Ranjit Singh, and Louis "Mad Dog" Malone can be added to the Animated Materiel list if anyone is bored!

[lefton4ya]

Originally Posted by AndreThaGiant

I realize this synergy list is tedious to keep up with, but Morgan's Riflemen, Millerson, Wastewalker Gage, Ranjit Singh, and Louis "Mad Dog" Malone can be added to the Animated Materiel list if anyone is bored!

Calling @Arch-vile as well as @Sherman Davies , @ZBeeblebrox , @1Mmirg , @Dad_Scaper , @superfrog to see if any of them are bored

[vegietarian18]

Realized I never wrote up anything on the Ebon after using them to success in OHS Season 43.

The Ebon have great second order synergy with Tomoe Gozen, to the point that imo, Tomoe/Ebon builds are almost in a separate class to normal Ebon builds. Obviously, the Ebon are better with unique human squads more than human heroes, because squads offer more chance for the Ebon to return from the dead. But, those unique squads typically start to get lower offensive output once their members start to die and the Ebon come back. You have eternal Ebon, but the rest of your army is falling apart. Tomoe flips that for unique Samurai squads. With her Life Debt, she makes a Samurai turn with one Samurai dead just as effective as a full activation Samurai turn. And that's great, because it means you still have a fully effective unique squad, and you have some Ebon back. It takes quite a few Samurai and Ebon kills against an Ebon + Tomoe + Samurai army to push the build under activations, compared to the average all unique army.

The key to using the Ebon well in this build, and pretty much any Ebon build, is staggering them. Sending out all four Ebon as a strike force may be tempting, but if you ever lose all four Ebon all at once, they become pretty much a dead card, even if you have a lot of humans left. Your opponent can repeatedly kill the first Ebon that respawns and you're unlikely to ever make them a threat again. Being more conservative, sending out two Ebon for a couple attacks of 4, while simultaneously developing up the other two for later positioning, is really good. You know that the frontline Ebon are going to die, but you also know you'll be getting them back later, and they'll have companions waiting for them.

When I did this build, I went Kozuke and Izumi as my Samurai squads. I also had Kaemon, who was crucial as a ping, and has great synergy with Tomoe too. I think Kozuke and Izumi are best pairs for Tomoe and Ebon, due to price point and the roles they fill. Izumi are a screen, Kozuke are big hitters for when your opponent engages, Ebon are bread and butter offense. You can definitely try Tagawa, but I feel like due to the nature of Bloodlust, they demand lots of sequential order markers in a way that the Ebon don't really want to give. You want to spread your order markers around a lot in this sort of build.

Unfortunately, this build is extremely tilted to be strong against melee and not great against range, due to the natural tilt of the Samurai. The Ebon do have Defensive Positioning, but that power is pretty situational. I would like to experiment with Skahen + Otonashi instead of Kaemon, to get a different direction and some anti-range.

[AndreThaGiant]

Thank you for sharing vegie, I'm looking forward to trying it out!

[TreePowerz]

After reading through this thread I am very interested in trying the Ebon/Tomoe build! It seems that Rygarn, Tomoe with Samurai, and Krav pair very well with the Ebon. Unfortunately this doesn’t all fit in a 500 point build at Delta or Classic. Order Marker management would be tough without Rygarn, but I think he is the first to go in order to make points;

Classic Points;
Ebon- 125
Krav- 100
Tomoe Gozen- 110
Izumi- 60
Kozuke- 100
Total; 495

Delta Points;
Ebon- 100
Krav- 115
Tomoe Gozen- 100
Izumi- 60
Kozuke or Tagawa- 90 or 110
Eldgrim or Otonashi- 35 or 10 (depending on whether you want Kozuke or Tagawa)
Total; 500 or 495 points

Of course there is the option to drop Krav instead to take Rygarn or a third Samurai squad. I personally think Krav makes the army much more flexible into range though. Another option that may be good with Delta points that includes Rygarn and some ranged threat would be;

Delta Points;
Ebon- 100
Rygarn- 100
Tomoe Gozen- 100
Izumi- 60
Kozuke- 90
Guilty Mccreech- 45
Total; 495 points

[SuperSamyon]

As I shared in the Morgoloth thread, I just heard that Temple of the West will be releasing pewter versions of the figures Heroscapers refer to as Ebon Armor. Temple of the West says so long as the community keeps supporting these hard to find Confrontation figure releases, they will continue to produce more of them. The head of Temple of the West mentioned these should be available for retail in a few weeks.

[Blue Trails]

Originally Posted by SuperSamyon

As I shared in the Morgoloth thread, I just heard that Temple of the West will be releasing pewter versions of the figures Heroscapers refer to as Ebon Armor. Temple of the West says so long as the community keeps supporting these hard to find Confrontation figure releases, they will continue to produce more of them. The head of Temple of the West mentioned these should be available for retail in a few weeks.

This is an interesting turn of events. Are those the figures in production, or are they the original Rackham sculpts?