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Re: [Pod 1] DIENEKES (Gideon Jura, Combat Mage) - Testing
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Re: [Pod 1] DIENEKES (Gideon Jura, Combat Mage) - Testing
For what it's worth, I think that there's a much greater appeal to 4L/5D at 90 points here. That keeps him distinct from Tandros Kreel as a cheaper but more niche investment, and the lower price has the potential to slot in quite nicely to our limited meta while still seeing some use in other formats. As a slightly heavier standalone investment, he has to be compared to the likes of Kaemon Awa and Asterios, and the higher base durability leaves a bit more room for frustration.
Ne-Gok-Sa's value doesn't come solely from his defensive stats (the pressure from Mind Shackle and bonding make developing him much more appealing), so I think that Tether of Logos and Combat Challenge are a fair trade for worse defense and less synergy. Proud Member of Platyfly!
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Re: [Pod 1] DIENEKES (Gideon Jura, Combat Mage) - Testing
Yall have convinced me - I second this.
C3V/SoV cards @ 3/page PDF / LeftOn4ya's Customs (including Jurassic World) / Competitive Unit Alters / New? Start Here! Unit Debates REVIVED - #76 Tandros Kreel vs Torin "Today is a good day to die... but the day is not yet over"
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Re: [Pod 1] DIENEKES (Gideon Jura, Combat Mage) - Testing
Pinging the other members of Pod 1 to see if they have any strong thoughts on the proposed stat change to 4 life and 5 defense:
@Fakeraistlin @Jaur0n @The Long eared bat Otherwise, I think that enough time has passed that we can probably call this vote. Proud Member of Platyfly!
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Re: [Pod 1] DIENEKES (Gideon Jura, Combat Mage) - Testing
Happy with 4 life and 5 defense could argue for 80/85 points rather than 90.
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Re: [Pod 1] DIENEKES (Gideon Jura, Combat Mage) - Testing
Good for 4L/5D and also 80 pts investment
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Re: [Pod 1] DIENEKES (Gideon Jura, Combat Mage) - Testing
80 points seems a little cheap to me; I'd prefer to stick to 90 for now and keep an eye on if Dienekes is underperforming in testing, given that he has the potential to be frustrating for opponents when paired with stuff like Raelin or on chokepoint-heavy maps. That's just my observation as an outsider, though, of course.
Price aside, that's 5/6 YEAs. @Scytale , do you mind updating the OP when you get a chance? Proud Member of Platyfly!
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Re: [Pod 1] DIENEKES (Gideon Jura, Combat Mage) - Testing
This is a unit that gets better with certain army builds and map layouts, and well as advanced game tactics. I think he's a steal for 90.
OP changed to Life 4/Defense 5. What do people think about limiting Tether to opponent's figures? It's the most natural use of the unit and reigns in his rather high potential (which I suspect will raise the unit's price if playtesters work to maximize Tether with friendlies). |
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Re: [Pod 1] DIENEKES (Gideon Jura, Combat Mage) - Testing
PTI, but I think limiting Tether to opponent's figures is a very good change, especially since it can currently be used as a cheesy and weird way to pull your own figures out of engagement without taking LEAs.
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Re: [Pod 1] DIENEKES (Gideon Jura, Combat Mage) - Testing
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Also I noticed since Cathar Spearman exist it is debatable which would trigger first BRACED SPEAR 16 (also Engagement Strike from Nakita's) or Tether of Logos. If Tether of Logos is second, that combo would be too overpowered as you get wounded then move away and have to try again, but not sure how to word power so so Tether of Logos is done first before other powers mid-move. C3V/SoV cards @ 3/page PDF / LeftOn4ya's Customs (including Jurassic World) / Competitive Unit Alters / New? Start Here! Unit Debates REVIVED - #76 Tandros Kreel vs Torin "Today is a good day to die... but the day is not yet over"
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Re: [Pod 1] DIENEKES (Gideon Jura, Combat Mage) - Testing
As worded in OP
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Either way when testing will have to test with Cathar Spearman, Nakita Agents, and Motley Max, and also with/against Warforged Soldiers. C3V/SoV cards @ 3/page PDF / LeftOn4ya's Customs (including Jurassic World) / Competitive Unit Alters / New? Start Here! Unit Debates REVIVED - #76 Tandros Kreel vs Torin "Today is a good day to die... but the day is not yet over"
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