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Old August 6th, 2023, 09:53 PM
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Weirdly Hot: The Scott Summers Story.

Looks good! I think we have some easy knobs to turn going forward.
Easy Knobs: The Weirdly Hot Story.


Anyway, I propose this goes to the "wait on Mysterio to clear testing" stage... It passes!

Thanks folks, I'll pop him over to testing once Mysterio wraps up.
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Re: Cyclops (Scott Summers) (First Class) (Wait for Testing)

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Old August 7th, 2023, 08:56 AM
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Re: Cyclops (Scott Summers) (First Class) (Wait for Testing)


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Old August 18th, 2023, 11:55 AM
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Re: Cyclops (Scott Summers) (First Class) (Testing)

Bumped this guy over to testing since Mysterio is clear.
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Re: Cyclops (Scott Summers) (First Class) (Testing)

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NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Cyclops

Army Test 1
Map: Castle Dracula (custom map_
Units: Team 1 (830): All them First Class folks minus Beast
Team 2 (830): Ms. Marvel (350), Blade (260), New Avengers Captain America (220)


Pre-game thoughts: N/A

Summary of the game:
Spoiler Alert!


Special power usages:
Normal attack: 2 wounds inflicted (2 on Ms. Marvel)
Telepathic Connection: Professor X and Marvel Girl chosen, but Cyclops never really popped off any attacks once Xavier died
Mutant Contingency Plan: Moved 1 OM to Marvel Girl when Xavier died in R3

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Marvel Girl (3/4 wounds)

Post-game thoughts: Photo finish here. I know there’s a chance New Avengers Cap may be getting a change soon, but that would’ve just meant that Jean finished with 2/4 wounds instead of 3/4.

Scott didn’t do much here, but the Threat of Scott affected the enemy’s choices in a few substantial ways.
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Army Test 2
Map: Conflict Chernobyl (No Glyphs)
Units: Team 1 (1,000): Cyclops (180), Avengers Iron Man (270), Moondragon (230), Emma Frost (220), Armor (100)
Team 2 (1,000): Conflict Begins Hulk (380), Doc Samson (290), Nebula (240), Arrowette (90)


Pre-game thoughts: Trying more of an alternate Telepath build here. Iron Man and Hulk are Moondragon’s Pawns. Hulk is Samson’s Focus.

Summary of the game:
Spoiler Alert!


Special power usages:
Normal attack: 7 wounds inflicted (4 on Nebula, 3 on Arrowette)
Telepathic Connection: Moondragon and Emma Frost chosen, boosted a few Defense and Attack rolls.
Mutant Contingency Plan: Not used
Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Cyclops (2/4 wounds), Emma Frost (4/5 wounds), Armor (1/3 wounds)

Post-game thoughts: A bigger win here, but the -1 Defense that Hulk got from being a Pawn hurt Team 2’s main offensive power a lot. Scott dealt a decent amount of wounds here, which was neat.
I'd also describe my results as "weirdly hot."

He's one of those pieces where his value feels a little more based on threatening the enemy with how good he could attack their guys vs. actually firing off said attacks. It's hard to tell after 2 games, but I think he's on the upper end of balanced - a good value, but not in a way that's broken.

Something I like as an aesthetic (and kinda wish I'd pushed on Cap Cold) is this:
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MUTANT CONTINGENCY PLAN
When Cyclops is defeated or another card on your team has its last figure defeated, you may place any Order Markers from that card on any Mutant cards you control.
It just makes things a little more mashup friendly - like in game 2 for example, Tony lost a ton of OMs. I think it'd be cool if Scott was able to step up with a plan...but that plan is gonna involve Mutants doing Mutant things.

But that's totally a "how Nobody would do things" bit and not any sort of logic that others may agree with. Some people may not actually like the mashup friendliness.
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Old August 28th, 2023, 08:14 PM
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Re: Cyclops (Scott Summers) (First Class) (Testing)

I could maybe see something like...

MUTANT CONTINGENCY PLAN
When Cyclops or an allied Mutant Hero is defeated, you may place any Order Markers from that Hero's card on any Mutant cards you control.

But the all figures blah blah blah leads more into squads and a bit too far for young Scott I think.

But I also like his power as is just offering a middle ground.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Re: Cyclops (Scott Summers) (First Class) (Testing)

I'm cool with cutting the mutant requirement like Japes did there. He should be able to play with some non-mutant allies here and there. Having him pop up with his dad for a Starjammers ride isn't a crazy thought.
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Old August 28th, 2023, 10:48 PM
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Re: Cyclops (Scott Summers) (First Class) (Testing)

Thanks for the games Nobody! I'd be cool with the little tweak to help him out with guest stars.
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Re: Cyclops (Scott Summers) (First Class) (Testing)

Yeah, solid tweak

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Re: Cyclops (Scott Summers) (First Class) (Testing)

Made that update in the OP, went the japes route.
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Re: Cyclops (Scott Summers) (First Class) (Testing)



means at minimum he will always have his card to put OM on.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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