The Book of Captain Cold (II)

[Soundwarp SG-1]

The bonding coming on other people's OMs (sorta giving every Rogue a 'Rogue Sidekick' power) is a fairly unique effect really. I mean, it's turn efficiency... so in that respect it's 'the same' as other factions... but if you don't have turn efficiency of some kind you're not a meaningful faction in the first place.

[IAmBatman]

Rogues as a faction are fragile and ineffective. I don't honestly believe Captain Cold (II) will, by himself, really solve that. But he might help with it.

I do have plans for a Blacksmith that should boost the faction in unusual ways and hopefully work better with Captain Cold (I) than this guy.

Biggest thing they need as a group is more defense/staying power, IMO.

[Arch-vile]

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Sergeant Chilly (II)

Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Captain Cold II (190), Heat Wave, Weather Wizard, Mirror Master, Trickster II (600) VS Luke Cage, Daredevil II, Punisher (600)

Spoiler Alert!

Trickster and Heat Wave advance. Luke and Daredevil advance. Weather Wizard inflicts one wound on Daredevil, then rolls 4 skulls, killing Daredevil (he goes the distance to avoid damage). Then Captain Cold moves up and is blocked. Luke moves up, but Captain Cold flash freezes him in place. Daredevil engages Weather Wizard and attacks him twice, inflicting 3 wounds, then the brutal part of his double attack finishes Weather Wizard off. Heat Wave whiffs and Trickster is blocked. Luke engages Trickster, takes a wound, then wounds Heat Wave. Daredevil finishes Heat Wave off.

Luke is blocked, Daredevil wounds Cold from range because Cold flash freezes him. Trickster and Cold are blocked. Luke puts 3 wounds on Cold. Daredevil engages Cold (taking a Trickster wound) and kills Cold. Trickster kills Daredevil, who goes the distance, and Trickster wounds Luke with a toy bomb. Luke & Daredevil kill Trickster. Only Mirror Master is left, this was a slaughter. I think I need a different strategy here.

It takes a couple rounds due to Mirror Master dodging stuff, but the Defenders easily win.


Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Luke Cage (3 wounds), Daredevil (3 wounds), Punisher (unused) win

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Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Captain Cold II (190), Heat Wave, Weather Wizard, Trickster I, Trickster II (720) VS Doc Ock II, Rhino, Vulture, Shocker (720)

Spoiler Alert!

Top and Trickster II move out. Vulture carries Rhino up. Trickster I throws the itching powder on Vulture, giving him 2 wounds. Cold moves up and is blocked. Shocker knocks both Tricksters back, inflicting 3 wounds on Trickster I, then Rhino tries to engage an enemy but Cold flash freezes him. Weather Wizard is blocked, then Trickster II is also blocked. Doc Ock moves up, Rhino puts 3 wounds on Cold, then Shocker tries to attack, but Weather Wizard has fog cover up.

Top puts 3 wounds on Shocker, then Cold disengages Rhino (taking a wound) then kills Shocker. Rhino wouldn’t be able to engage Cold due to flash freeze, so he simply walks one space back to Top, inflicting one wound on him. Top is blocked, then Heat Wave kills Vulture and wounds Rhino. Doc Ock is blocked, then Rhino kills Top. Weather Wizard manages 4 wounds on Rhino, then Heat Wave finishes him off. Doc Ock wounds Weather Wizard.

Doc Ock puts 2 wounds on Weather Wizard. Weather Wizard wounds Doc Ock, then Heat Wave also wounds him. Doc Ock is blocked. Weather Wizard is blocked, then Heat Wave kills Doc Ock.


Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Captain Cold (4 wounds), Trickster I (3 wounds), Weather Wizard (3 wounds), Heat Wave, Trickster II win.

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Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Captain Cold II (190), Girder, Abra Kadabra, The Top, Trickster I, Captain Boomerang I (880) VS Nightwing I, Raven, Tempest, Lagoon Boy, Changeling (880)

Spoiler Alert!

Changeling flies up. Top and Girder advance. Tempest places a water tile that wounds Girder. Girder advances and Abra Kadabra is blocked. Nightwing says Titans Go: Tempest places a water tile to wound Girder, Raven puts 2 wounds on Abra Kadabra, Nightwing is blocked. Girder puts 2 wounds on Changeling, who then runs away. Abra Kadabra wounds Nightwing.

Girder wounds Tempest then Abra Kadabra is blocked. Nightwing says Titans Go: Raven takes Nightwing’s wound then disengages Girder then kills Abra Kadabra (Cold sends his OM to Top), Tempest puts 2 wounds on Top, Nightwing puts 2 wounds on Girder. Girder wounds Raven, then Top uses his spinning top special attack to kill Raven. Tempest is blocked. Top puts 3 wounds on Nightwing, then Trickster attacks Nightwing but he rolls a shield. Lost OM3 on Raven.

Nightwing says Titans Go: Changeling is blocked, Tempest wounds Trickster with a water tile, Nightwing is blocked. Top puts 2 wounds on Changeling then kills Nightwing, then Cold moves up and wounds Changeling. Tempest places a water tile to wound Girder. Top kills Changeling then Trickster drops some itching powder on Lagoon Boy, inflicting 2 wounds. Lost OM3 on Changeling. Girder & Top are blocked. Girder rusts and dies.

Tempest is blocked. Top puts 2 wounds on Tempest then is blocked. Tempest kills Top, and Cold saves the OMs and sends them to Captain Boomerang. Captain Boomerang is blocked, but Trickster kills tempest. Lost OM3 on Tempest. Captain Boomerang then kills Lagoon Boy from height.


Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Trickster I (1 wound), Captain Cold, Captain Boomerang win.

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Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Captain Cold II (190), The Top, Weather Wizard, Abra Kadabra, Captain Boomerang II, Pied Piper (850) VS Captain America C3G, Giant-Man, Black Widow, Spider-Man C3G (840)

Spoiler Alert!

Top & Pied Piper move up. Cap moves up. Weather Wizard is blocked, then Captain Boomerang puts 2 wounds on Cap. Spidey wounds Top. Weather Wizard is blocked, then Captain Boomerang puts 2 wounds on Cap. Spidey slings Top over and deals him 2 wounds.

Cap kills Top, and Cold sends the OM1 to Weather Wizard. Weather Wizard is blocked then Captain Boomerang kills Cap. Spidey deals 2 wounds to Weather Wizard. Spidey dodges Weather Wizard and Boomerang. Spidey kills Weather Wizard, and Cold sends OM3 to Abra. Abra Kadabra & Boomerang miss their attacks.

Black Widow puts 2 wounds on Captain Boomerang. Boomerang disengages Widow then deals her 3 wounds, then Pied Piper kills Black Widow (she rolled 0/10 shields all game). Lost OM2 on Widow. Boomerang and Kadabra are blocked. Spidey wounds Boomerang. Abra Kadabra wounds Giant-Man and Captain Cold is blocked.

Spidey kills Captain Boomerang. Abra and Pied Piper can’t hit Spidey. Spidey wounds Abra. Abra is blocked then Cold wounds Spidey. Spidey puts 3 wounds on Pied Piper. Abra wounds Spidey and Cold is dodged. Spidey wounds Cold.

Abra is dodged then Cold wounds Spidey. Spidey kills Pied Piper. Abra wounds Spidey then Cold is dodged. Spidey puts 2 wounds on Cold. Spidey dodges Abra & Cold. Giant-Man moves up.

Giant-Man wounds Abra, because Cold flash freezes him from moving within range of him. Abra is blocked but Cold manages to kill Spidey. Giant-Man is blocked. Abra and Cold are blocked. Giant-Man kills Cold. Abra wounds Giant-Man.

Abra wounds Giant-Man. Giant-Man wounds Abra. Abra kills Giant-Man.


Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Abra Kadabra (3 wounds) wins.

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Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Captain Cold II (190), The Top, Weather Wizard, Abra Kadabra, Girder, Rainbow Raider (65), Golden Glider (1000) VS Fantastic 4 (1000)

Spoiler Alert!

Golden Glider chooses Abra Kadabra as her Duo partner.

Top & Girder move out. Reed & Sue move out. Girder moves out then Rainbow Raider inflicts a wound on Reed. Johnny engages and wounds Girder, Thing moves up, Reed engages Girder & Rainbow Raider and puts 2 wounds on Rainbow Raider. Girder puts 3 wounds on Reed, then Golden Glider is blocked. Reed rolls 20: Johnny puts 2 wounds on Girder then kills Rainbow Raider, Thing kills Girder, Sue & Reed are blocked.

Top wounds Johnny, then Golden Glider is blocked. Johnny puts 2 wounds on Top then engages & wounds Weather Wizard, Thing kills Golden Glider, Reed wounds Top. Top fails, but Abra Kadabra kills Johnny. Lost OM2 on Johnny. Top & Abra are blocked. Thing disengages Abra to kill Top.

Abra puts 3 wounds on Sue, then Weather Wizard is blocked. Thing is flash frozen by Cold, then Reed engages Weather Wizard & Cold and wounds Weather Wizard. Abra kills Sue then Weather Wizard kills Reed. Thing kills Weather Wizard. Abra puts 2 wounds on Thing then Cold is blocked. Thing wounds Cold.

Thing puts 3 wounds on Cold. Abra puts 2 wounds on Thing then Cold is blocked. Thing kills Cold. Abra kills Thing.


Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Abra Kadabra (0 wounds) wins.

THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Captain Cold (II) makes the Rogues into a solid army. They’re still very fragile, but getting double turns with fairly powerful attackers like Weather Wizard or Girder is solid, especially when further boosted by The Top’s aura. I ended up with 4/5 wins here, though none of the armies I used against the Rogues were particularly competitive, except the Fantastic 4. I may end up running a couple more games against stuff like a more competitive Titans build, but for now I think I’m okay with just raising him to 200 points. I don’t really want to go higher than 200, so if other people continue the winning streak I’ll look at powering him down a tad.

Ultimately the Rogues felt good, though. Flash Freeze is a handy power which basically shuts down a melee unit once per round - but only if you’ve got no other units near him. And it’s easily avoidable by flying/leaping/web swinging, which is kinda neat. Rogue Contingency Plan is really handy, as you’ll never lose a turn unless Cold dies. The Rogues is another power that’s more interesting in gameplay. Notably the figure you reveal an OM on does not have to be within 6 clear sight spaces of Captain Cold, so I could lead out with all OMs on Girder and not move up Cold until later, as long as the ranged Rogues stayed within 6 spaces of Cold so he could activate him as the second turn. It was a nifty way to keep Cold safe, but the tradeoff is you basically lose his Flash Freeze power by doing that. I’m curious how he feels to other people.

[Arch-vile]

Other factional thoughts for yet-to-be-released-units: Abra Kadabra felt pretty strong overall, so a 10-point increase might be worthwhile there. He did fall super quickly to magical defense users, which was nice to see. Golden Glider felt about right, she was fairly weak in this game. Rainbow Raider might be worth a bump to 70-75 as well - he dies in 1-2 small hits but he's done well with autowounds so far.

[IAmBatman]

Looking good! Pre-yea for public testing.

[Yodaking]

Making adjustments to other unreleased units based on experience playing them all together with a leader Cold card seems like a good idea to me.

[IAmBatman]

Does Sergeant Chili eat Ollie's Chili?

[Arch-vile]

I think he's more into gazpacho.

Thanks for the comments, fellas. I'll propose to public playtesting at 200 points for now.

[Lord Pyre]

Mmmm gazpacho.

Yea

[Yodaking]

yea

[Soundwarp SG-1]

Yes

[Karat]

Yea