The Book of Batman (Terry McGinnis)

[Lord Pyre]

Originally Posted by johnny139

Well, does he look closer to THIS or to THIS in body mass? If it's the second, I think we should probably bump his attack up some - guy looks buffer than Bruce Wayne in his prime!

Oh, the figure definitely has muscles... I'm pretty sure someone's taken a picture already, lemme scrounge it up...


Here it is! Mine of course looks better, since I touched it up and took away the blandness of the paintjob, BUT....

[IAmBatman]

I think A3n's comic art fits with that just fine.

[DEATHWALKER 1970]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

Is there any precedent for having an "OR" instead of an "or"?

I suppose you refer to my BATLINK suggestions...
The large "OR" wasn´t supposed to be a suggestion for actual word size, merely meant to draw attention to the two alternative uses for the power.

[IAmBatman]

Gotcha. I referred to what was in the first post, though.

[IAmBatman]

I think we want to make an adjustment to this:

BATSUIT COMLINK
After moving and before attacking, you may reveal the X-Order Marker on this card to either add 1 to Batman's attack number this turn, or add 4 to Batman´s range number for this turn.

Originally I thought about going with "add 1 die to Batman's attack" but then what are you adding to his range? Referring to the number is cleaner, I think.

[whitestuff]

I'd have backed you with the 5 life Pyre...

I like the Comlink ability... a bit of genius there...

[Sherman Davies]

Bat Cloaking can probably just adopt the Nakita's official wording:

BAT CLOAKING
Batman can move through all figures and is never attacked when leaving an engagement. If there are no revealed Order Markers on this card, Batman cannot be targeted by opponents' non-adjacent figures for any attacks, or any special powers that require clear sight has no visible hit zone.

[Lord Pyre]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

Gotcha. I referred to what was in the first post, though.

Like I said, I copy/pasted it...

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

I think we want to make an adjustment to this:

BATSUIT COMLINK
After moving and before attacking, you may reveal the X-Order Marker on this card to either add 1 to Batman's attack number this turn, or add 4 to Batman´s range number for this turn.

Originally I thought about going with "add 1 die to Batman's attack" but then what are you adding to his range? Referring to the number is cleaner, I think.

Updating!

Originally Posted by whitestuff

I'd have backed you with the 5 life Pyre...

Shoot, I was just convinced that 4 would be alright, and now I want to fight it again...

Originally Posted by Sherman Davies

Bat Cloaking can probably just adopt the Nakita's official wording

Sounds good! Changed.

[IAmBatman]

Originally Posted by Sherman Davies

Bat Cloaking can probably just adopt the Nakita's official wording:

BAT CLOAKING
Batman can move through all figures and is never attacked when leaving an engagement. If there are no revealed Order Markers on this card, Batman cannot be targeted by opponents' non-adjacent figures for any attacks, or any special powers that require clear sight has no visible hit zone.

Disagree. There are special powers that require clear sight instead of clear line of sight that don't need a hitzone to work.
For instance, I can have clear sight on a zombie for a power requiring clear sight without seeing the zombie's head. I think Magnetic Throw is a good example. The zombie's toe could be in clear sight of Magneto and Magneto could throw him (as long as he's not more than 4 spaces away). If Magneto could "see" Batman's toe while Batman's cloaked, however, Magneto shouldn't be able to throw him, because he wouldn't really be able to see that invisible toe.
This is the reason we went this direction with Martian Manhunter and Invisible Woman.

[Lord Pyre]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

Disagree. There are special powers that require clear sight instead of clear line of sight that don't need a hitzone to work.
For instance, I can have clear sight on a zombie for a power requiring clear sight without seeing the zombie's head. I think Magnetic Throw is a good example. The zombie's toe could be in clear sight of Magneto and Magneto could throw him (as long as he's not more than 4 spaces away). If Magneto could "see" Batman's toe while Batman's cloaked, however, Magneto shouldn't be able to throw him, because he wouldn't really be able to see that invisible toe.
This is the reason we went this direction with Martian Manhunter and Invisible Woman.

Changing it back

[IAmBatman]

So wishy washy, lol.

[Lord Pyre]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

So wishy washy, lol.

Well, I'll leave the wording arguments to you guys, since I'm horrible at that

And I know this seems really rushed, but is there really anything else to do before the initial playtest? I see no big problems, it seems like a solid design so far. The comments are all nitpicky stuff that can be changed later, anyway, if they come up, so...