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The Book of Kingpin (II)

The Book of Kingpin (II)

C3G MARVEL PUBLIC EXCLUSIVE COLLECTION 16
RULING THE RABBLE



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The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Universe set.
Its model numbers and name are #067-069 / Kingpin.


The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Infinity Challenge set.
Its model numbers and name are #043-045 / Kingpin.
Its model numbers and name are #163 / Wilson Fisk.

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Character Bio - Fisk's criminal empire has fallen many times, but he inevitably rises to reclaim it. Working from the shadows, he may be be seldom seen, but his influence is always felt. The ranks of the criminal underworld know, and many a 'Hero' has learned, everyone has a weakness and everyone must eventually pay homage to the once and future Kingpin of Crime.
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-Rulings and Clarifications-
  • N/A
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-Combinations and Synergies-

Incoming Synergy:Outgoing Synergy:
  • Kingpin may change one Crime Fighter, Lawman, or Vigilante Hero into a Criminal, removing any synergies gained by their original class and granting them these Criminal Synergies. Current Crime Fighter, Lawman, and Vigilante Heroes.
  • Kingpin may raise the move, attack, and defense of Assassins, Criminals and Theives with his Kingpin of Crime special power. Current Assassins, Criminals and Thieves.
Immunities, Benefits, and Weaknesses:
  • As a Human, Kingpin interacts differently with these special powers.
  • As a Manipulative figure, when Kingpin attacks Jewel, she rolls one fewer defense die, due to her Psychological Vulnerability special power.
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Re: The Book of Kingpin (II) (Opening Phase)

NAME = KINGPIN
SECRET IDENTITY = WILSON FISK

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = CRIME LORD
PERSONALITY = MANIPULATIVE
SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 5

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS = 230


CRIMINAL FRAME-UP
At the start of the game, you may choose one Unique Hero that is a Crime Fighter, Lawman or Vigilante. For this game the chosen figure's class is Criminal instead of what is listed on its card.

KINGPIN OF CRIME
If at least one of your Order Markers for a round is placed on this card, and:
• All of your other Order Markers are placed on Assassin cards you control, then all Assassins you control add 1 to their Attack numbers for the rest of the round;
• All of your other Order Markers are placed on Criminal cards you control, then all Criminals you control add 1 to their Defense numbers for the rest of the round;
• All of your other Order Markers are placed on Thief cards you control, then all Thieves you control add 2 to their Move numbers for the rest of the round;
• You have one Order Marker each on an Assassin card you control, a Criminal card you control, and a Thief card you control, then all Assassins, Thieves and Criminals you control add 1 to their Move, Attack and Defense numbers for the rest of the round.

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Re: The Book of Kingpin (II) (Opening Phase)

Ok, this thread is up, hopefully everything looks right, I'll add some synergy lists to this post later as this Kingpin has his fingers in many pies.

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Criminal Frame-Up
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Re: The Book of Kingpin (II) (Opening Phase)

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Ok, this thread is up, hopefully everything looks right, I'll add some synergy lists to this post later as this Kingpin has his fingers in many pies.
One step I might not have mentioned...send a PM to all the heroes with a link to the thread.

Everything else looks good.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Everything else looks good.
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Re: The Book of Kingpin (II) (Opening Phase)

I'm a fan of this one. Pretty polished design.

I had some (purely thematic) misgivings about the lack of conditions or downsides to Criminal Frame-Up, but I've come around on that point. Not out of character for him to have that kind of leverage, and we are talking about a guy who's gone under the name 'Brainwasher'.

I could see him at 5 Attack, but he doesn't totally need it.
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Re: The Book of Kingpin (II) (Opening Phase)

I like it. Immediately makes me think of teams I want to put him in.
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I liked it when it was a draft, and I still like it now.
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Re: The Book of Kingpin (II) (Opening Phase)

Second power has an extra 'if' in it, otherwise looking good. The bonus for one OM on each tempts me to try and bring a mixed army, but I could also see myself just running an all criminal or all assassin team with him.

Any OM rearrangement powers we need to make a FAQ for? Say Riddler or Ozy is in your opponents team, can they knock out the bonus or is the bonus locked in at the start of the round when OM's are first placed? If it is 'locked in' then can you have an OM re-arranger in your own army and keep the bonuses going after you move an OM from Kingpin to ?
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I'm a fan of this one. Pretty polished design.

I had some (purely thematic) misgivings about the lack of conditions or downsides to Criminal Frame-Up, but I've come around on that point. Not out of character for him to have that kind of leverage, and we are talking about a guy who's gone under the name 'Brainwasher'.
I am open to having a way to clear a Hero's name if that's the desired path, my personal custom this is based on does so by Kingpin either being destroyed or mindshackled, I didn't include a method in this draft mostly to keep the card a bit more streamlined. As you say though, a lasting influence isn't really a massive theme break for Kingpin.

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I could see him at 5 Attack, but he doesn't totally need it.
I'm pretty flexible with the stats, as they're mostly irrelevant. I think there is some merit to keeping him at 4 though, as it helps him not overshadow Kingpin I too much.

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Second power has an extra 'if' in it, otherwise looking good.
Thanks, fixed.

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Any OM rearrangement powers we need to make a FAQ for? Say Riddler or Ozy is in your opponents team, can they knock out the bonus or is the bonus locked in at the start of the round when OM's are first placed? If it is 'locked in' then can you have an OM re-arranger in your own army and keep the bonuses going after you move an OM from Kingpin to ?
The power is based off of Spartacus's, which is locked in at the start of the round in classic scape and stays around for the round no matter what happens to Sparty. I don't think there is anything in C3G that contradicts that ruling for Kingpin. So Riddler and such can't deactivate the bonuses, but Oracle/Captain Marvel/Whatever could let you rearrange your OMs without losing the bonus. I don't there is anyone that can rearrange your OMs in a way efficient enough to be a problem though, even old school Sage and Rodgers wouldn't have worked.


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I'm a fan of this one. Pretty polished design.

I had some (purely thematic) misgivings about the lack of conditions or downsides to Criminal Frame-Up, but I've come around on that point. Not out of character for him to have that kind of leverage, and we are talking about a guy who's gone under the name 'Brainwasher'.
I am open to having a way to clear a Hero's name if that's the desired path, my personal custom this is based on does so by Kingpin either being destroyed or mindshackled, I didn't include a method in this draft mostly to keep the card a bit more streamlined. As you say though, a lasting influence isn't really a massive theme break for Kingpin.

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I could see him at 5 Attack, but he doesn't totally need it.
I'm pretty flexible with the stats, as they're mostly irrelevant. I think there is some merit to keeping him at 4 though, as it helps him not overshadow Kingpin I too much.
Not sure if clearing his name mechanic is really needed but I have a very open mind to it and would listen to the reasons it would be necessary.

Also I think you may be right and leaving him at 4 attack makes sense.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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