The Book of Spider-Girl (Anya) - Page 3

tcglkn · #25 July 26th, 2021, 11:38 PM

Yea

Arch-vile · #26 July 27th, 2021, 07:56 AM

Yea

Soundwarp SG-1 · #27 July 27th, 2021, 06:37 PM

yea

LordVenoc · #28 July 28th, 2021, 01:15 PM

Yea

Lord Pyre · #29 August 13th, 2021, 04:10 PM

Looking real nice here! I'd like to keep her at 190 since that makes a nice even point block with UK, but it's not a huge deal. I don't think these tests warrant an increase quite yet.

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Originally Posted by Skinderella

Hey Pyre! Just finished the tests, really enjoyed her!

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C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Spider-Girl

Map: The Crypt
Units: Spider-Girl (190), Spider-Girl (May) (140), Anti-Venom (260), Doppelganger (250), Spider-Man (C3G) (250) (1090 points) Vs. Luke Cage (190), Wolverine (Laura) (280), Casey Jones (160), Ryu (150), Iron Man (250), Headpool (60) (1090 points)

Spoiler Alert!

Wolverine chooses Luke Cage.
Round 1 - Blue team start
B1: Headpool flies to Anya. Anya and May swing line in together. Field Pulse pushes Doppelgänger 1 space.
R1: Iron Man claims some shadow.
B2: Headpool claims some high ground. Anya and Spider-Man swing in.
R2: Ryu and Luke Cage move next to Iron Man.
B3: Headpool moves closer to Spider-Man. Anya claims the highest point on the map whilst Anti-Venom swings onto shadow.
R3: Laura moves to the group and Luke Cage cycles around Iron Man onto some higher ground.

Round 2 - Red team start
R1: Iron Man Repulsor Beam’s May, dealing 2 wounds and knocking her back 1 space. Luke Cage moves across to some other high ground.
B1: Headpool engages Anya, forcing her to swing over him and attacks Luke Cage, failing to wound and swinging out. Spider-Man uses Web Slinger to pull Cage in and attacks. Taking Cage down to 2 defense, Spider deals 2 wounds and enraging Laura.
R2: Ryu engages Anya and attacks, dealing no wounds. Luke Cage attacks Anya, also dealing no wounds.
B2: Headpool engages Anti-Venom and Anya. Anya swings onto high ground next to Cage and attacks, dealing no wounds. She swings and attacks Ryu, dealing a wound. Spidey pulls in Ryu and attacks him, dealing 2 wounds.
R3: Laura engages Anya and attacks, dealing 3 wounds. Cage attacks Spider-Man, dealing 2 wounds.
B3: Headpool engages Anya. Anya swings and attacks Ryu, failing to wound and swinging out. Anti-Venom heals Anya and attacks Ryu, but fails to wound.

Round 3 - Blue team start
B1: Headpool engages Anti-Venom. Anya attacks Cage and deals a wound. Laura rages. Anya then swings out. Anti-Venom heals Anya and attacks Ryu, but fails to wound.
R1: Laura engages Anti-Venom and attacks, dealing 5 wounds. Luke Cage swings for Spidey but he dodges.
B2: Headpool stays put. Anya deals another wound to Cage and swings back out. Laura rages. Anti-Venom swings to Luke Cage and destroys him. Anti-Venom heals.
R2: OM2 on Luke Cage.
B3: Headpool engages Spidey and Anya. Anya deals a wound to Laura, moves and attacks her again but fails to wound. Spidey Web Slingers Laura to him and attacks, dealing 2 wounds.
R3: OM3 on Luke Cage. Laura reveals and heals with X.

Round 4 - Red team start
R1: Laura, fully raging, destroys Anti-Venom in one hit and loses a rage. She then attacks Spidey, dealing 2 wounds. She attacks again but is dodged. With 3 shields though, she backs around onto shadow and heals.
B1: OM1 on Anti-Venom.
R2: Laura engages May, destroys her, and deals a wound to Anya. Laura heals.
B2: Headpool engages Anya. Anya attacks Laura and deals a wound. She attacks again and deals another 2. Spidey then pulls her in and destroys her.
R3: Iron Man flies around and attacks Spidey with Repulsor Beam, but is dodged.
B3: Headpool stays put. Anya swing lines to Ryu and attacks, destroying him. She swings to Iron Man and deals a wound. Spidey then pulls him in and deals another wound.

Round 5 - Red team start
R1: Iron Man RBs Spidey but fails both times.
B1: Headpool engages Spidey. Anya destroys Iron Man and swings 2 spaces. Spidey attacks Headpool and he is punted.
R2: Casey moves around some cover.
B2: Headpool moves towards Spidey. Anya and Spidey both swing to Casey. neither dealing a wound.
R3: Casey engages Spidey and attacks but is dodged. Spidey swings away.
B3: Headpool engages Doppelganger. Anya destroys Casey. Doppelganger Six-Armed Assaults Headpool, punting him to he centre of the map.

Round 6 - Blue team start
B1: Anya destroys Headpool.

Winners: Spider-Girl (Anya) with 2 wounds, Spider-Man with 4 wounds, Doppelganger with no wounds.

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Map: The Crypt
Units: Spider-Girl (190), Scarlet Spider (190), Anti-Venom (260) Spider-Man (C3G) (250) (890 points) Vs. Judge Dredd (210), Judge Hershey (200), Judge Anderson (190), Brit-Cit Judge x4 (220), Aaron Cash (75) (895 points)

Spoiler Alert!

Round 1 - Blue team start
B1: Anya and Ben swing in, taking either side of the central area.
R1: All figures apart from Hershey move.
B2: Anya moves towards Ben, and Peter swings into the centre to claim the high ground.
R2: Judges continue moving around the board, staying out of Spider-Man’s range.
B3: Anya gets to cover and Anti-Venom moves next to Ben.
R3: Dredd moves forward and shoots at Ben with a Ricochet, which is dodged and Ben moves to engage him. Dredd then Armour Piercing Rounds him, which is also dodged.

Round 2 - Blue team start
B1: Anya deals 2 wounds to a Brit-Cit and is now Judged. Anya moves and fails to wound. Anti-Venom engages a Brit-Cit next to Anya and attacks, destroying him and now also Judged.
R1: Anderson attacks Anti-Venom, dealing 2 wounds.
B2: Anya fails to destroy the other Brit-Cit. Spider-Man pulls Dredd in and deals a wound, judging him.
R2: Dredd APRs Spider-Man, who dodges it. He goes for an Incendiary but is dodged.
B3: Anya destroys the Brit-Cit and moves. Anti-Venom attacks Dredd, who is Psi-Flashed. Dredd moves away and Anti-Venom then heals.
R3: Dredd Incendiaries Ben but dodges. Misses Spider-Man.

Round 3 - Blue team start
B1: Anya shoots at Aaron Cash, dealing a wound. Venom moves around and heals.
R1: Dredd fires two High Explosives at Anti-Venom and Spider-Girl, but only deals 2 wounds.
B2: Anya engages Aaron and attacks, but is Psi-Flashed and a Brit-Cit moves. Spider-Man then swing lines and attacks Anderson, dealing a wound.
R2: Dredd fires two Incendiaries at Spider-Girl, failing to wound.
B3: Anya attacks Anderson, fails to wound, and then moves to Dredd and inflicts 2 wounds on him. Anti-Venom engages Anderson, deals 2 wounds, and heals 1.
R3: Dredd APRs Anya and Peter. Anya takes 2 wounds, but Peter dodges. Rolls 3 blanks on his next attack.

Round 4 - Red team starts
R1: Dredd fires another APR, failing to wound Anya. An Incendiary also fails.
B1: Anya attacks Cash, destroying him. She then moves and attacks Dredd, dealing a wound.
R2: Dredd destroys Anya, and deals 2 wounds to Anti-Venom.
B2: Anti-Venom attacks, but is Psi-Flashed. Brit-Cit moves in. Venom heals.
R3: Dredd double Incendiaries Anti-Venom, dealing 1 wound.
B3: Spider-Man pulls in Dredd and attacks, dealing no wounds.

Round 5 - Blue team starts
B1: AV fails to wound Dredd. Heals 1.
R1: Dredd APRs and Incendiaries AV, dealing a total 2 wounds.
B2: AV fails again. Heals 1.
R2: Dredd fails.
B3: AV is Psi-Flashed, and Dredd retreats. Heals 1.
R3: Dredd rains two explosives on AV, dealing 3 wounds.

Round 6 - Blue team starts
B1: AV attacks Dredd, who is Psi-Flashed.
R1: Dredd APRs AV, destroying him. He then Incendiaries Spidey, dealing 3 wounds.
B2: Spidey swings to the centre and destroys Dredd.
R2: Anderson fails to wound Spidey.
B3: Spidey swings to Anderson, but fails to wound.
R3: Anderson APRs Spidey but he dodges.

Round 7 - Red team starts
R1: Anderson APRs again, but Spidey dodges and moves onto high ground.
B1: Spidey pulls Anderson in, and she Psi-Flashes.
R2: Anderson attacks but Spidey dodges and he swings away.
B2: Spidey pulls Anderson again and destroys her.
R3: A Brit-Cit engages Spidey and attacks, but he dodges.
B3: Spidey pulls that judge in and deals 2 wounds.

Round 8 - Red team starts
R1: Attacked Brit-Cit fires an APR but Spidey dodges and swings away.
B1: Spidey pulls in that Brit-Cit, failing to wound.
R2: Brit-Cit attacks, Spidey dodges.
B2: Spidey pulls and destroys that Brit-Cit.
R3: Last Brit-Cit moves to Hershey.
B3: Spidey swings to them and deals a wound to the Brit-Cit.

Round 9 - Blue team starts
B1: Spidey pulls the Brit-Cit in and deals another wound.
R1: Brit-Cit APRs Spidey, who dodges it and swings back one space.
B2: Spidey pulls the Brit-Cit but fails to roll a skull.
R2: Brit-Cit fails to wound Spidey.
B3: Spidey destroys the Brit-Cit.
R3: Hershey APRs Spidey, who dodges.

Round 10 - Blue team starts
B1: Spidey pulls Hershey in and deals 3 wounds.
R1: Hershey destroys him with an APR.
B2: OM2 on Spider-Man.
R2: Hershey attacks Scarlet Spider but he dodges.
B3: OM3 on Spider-Man.
R3: Hershey shoots Scarlet Spider again, who dodges.

Round 11 - Blue team starts
B1: SS fails to wound.
R1: Hershey APRs but fails to wound.
B2: SS destroys Hershey.

Winners: Scarlet Spider with no wounds.

Thoughts on the tested unit’s cost, balance, & draftability:
During my playtests Spider-Girl quickly and clearly showcased herself as a key piece in a Spider-folk army. The combination of Web Warriors Leadership and Spider-Agility makes her very mobile, very versatile, and aggressive. Being able to activate somewhat like a Sidekick is very useful, and it allows her to constantly apply her debuffs and sets up some nasty combos which can be very strong. I found Anti-Venom and Spider-Man (C3G) to be her best partners. With Anti-Venom he can patch her up easily, and can be a strong beat stick and tank. Spider-Man can safely pull a key figure away from allies and hit them with 5 attack on height and -3 defense debuff. I think she’s very strong and a centre piece in a spider army. The debuff helps a lot of the spiders’ lower attack stat.

I’d say she’s strong at 190. I could see her maybe getting a slight price increase, but the lack of defensive power that a lot of other spiders have keeps her in check. She quickly becomes a target because of this as evident in the second game. She usually has to commit herself to a fight because 2 move isn’t going far, but a lot of the spiders can make up for this. You have to be careful with her, but she’s very good at what she does. As mentioned earlier I wouldn’t be surprised at a slight price increase, but I think the power here is more coming from her teammates she's set up than her herself.

General thoughts on the tested unit:
Really looking forward to her releasing. Never really tried the spiders until now but them all together is a lot of fun and she brings them all together pretty well. The debuff is really appreciated since a lot of the spiders are 4 attack or less. It’s also quite unique, I don’t recall many or any units having a debuff aura centred on their target instead of themselves, and it got a lot of mileage in my games! Very fun and strong unit!

Arkham · #30 August 25th, 2021, 06:18 AM

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Spider-Girl (Anya)

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Army Test 1
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Spider-Girl(Anya)(190), Spider-Man(250), Darkseid(380), Oracle(110) (930)
vs.
Luke Cage(190), Iron Fist(260), Wolverine(270), Nova(210) (930)

Spoiler Alert!

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Army Test 2
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Spider-Girl(Anya)(190), Spider-Man(250), Spider-Woman(250), Spider-Ham(150) (840)
vs.
Professor X(220), Gorgon(300), Phoenix(230), Angel(90) (840)

Spoiler Alert!

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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY:
She's useful and will have her place to be drafted. The stacking of defense reduction to setup Spider-Man is neat, but she's pretty easy to eliminate with 4 life and 5 defense with no specials keeping her alive. I think she's a bit overcosted as-is. The bonus turn is nice, as is the defense reduction as mentioned, but the additional attack requiring her to be adjacent, and the defense reduction requiring her to attack, you'll struggle to keep her alive when she's that close to the fray. I didn't use Captain Universe here, so I'm not sure if he's the go-to to protect her, but from my understanding if they engage her without engaging him, they could still attack her, so I'm not totally sure how full proof that is either. Regardless, I wouldn't mind seeing either a defense boost to 6, or a point drop to 160-170.

**I used Spider-Woman who's cost isn't finalized, but I'm confident enough in it that I wanted to try her. So keep that in mind, but she didn't interact with her at all, and they lost anyway.**

Lord Pyre · #31 September 8th, 2021, 10:20 AM

From Joshua Quinn

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Originally Posted by JoshuaQuinn

Sorry it took so long to get done. I really liked her and think she is good. Looking forward to see her finish up.

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM
NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Spider-Woman (Anya Sofia Corazon)

Army Test
Map: Alkali Lake
Units: Teen Titans (Starfire, Raven, Cyborg, Kid Flash, Night Wing, Beast Boy (T-Rex, Bear, Cheetah) vs the Web Warriors Spider-Man, Agent Venom, Antivenom, Venom, Scarlet Spider

A battle between two teen teams had all the makings to be a big fight. Things looked good for the web warriors in the first round or two but quickly went downhill. The game started with everyone moving into place and the Web Warriors having the higher ground. Spider-Woman started off strong, jumping around the board and dealing damage as her team members peppered the Teen Titans. In round 1 and 2 Spider-Woman took out Kid Flash and did some damage to Beast boys different forms, raven and night wing. The Teen Titans quickly identified her as the lead and focused all of their attacks on her. Starfire knocked Spider-Woman out. Beast Boy then turned his attention on Antivenom and quickly destroyed the would be savior (Rd 5) before he could effectively heal his team. Starfire then set her eyes on Spider-Man who had webbed a couple heroes but couldn’t do any real damage and she took him out in Round 6. With both of their leaders gone it was only a matter of time before the group of unruly heroes fell apart. In Round 7 Starfire’s bolts proved to much for Agent Venom. Raven was healing her team and adding wounds to the web warriors and finally took out Venom in Round 8. Cyborg and Raven turned their attention to the remaining warrior and took down Scarlet Spider.

End of Game: Teen Titans Starfire 3 life left, Raven 4 life left, Cyborg 2 life left, Night Wing 2 life left, Beast Boy 2 life left
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Army Test
Map: Alkali Lake
Units: Agent Venom, Antivenom, Venom, Spider-Man, 5th Precent Cops, Shield Sniper vs Yellow Jacket, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Black Knight, Cyborg, Antman, Skrull Warriors, Skrull Infiltrator, Punisher

In this game of Secret Invasion and Avengers vs the Web Warriors showed their strength early and were well coordinated. Lessons were learned after the failure of their last mission. Early on Hawkeye and Black Widow tried to take the top of the dam but were met with force by Venom and Spider-Woman. The back and forth combination of the two of them proved powerful. Spider-Womans double attack was in full force dealing damage to one, before attacking the other. While they fought on the dam, Agent Venom, Antivenom and the 5th precinct cops moved into position on the low side of the board looking to take on the Black Knight and his Ebony Sword. In round 3 Spider-woman proved who the better spider was by taking out Black Widow. Black Knight took out one of the 5th Precinct cops but was quickly dealt with by Anitvenom. In Round 4 Venom took out Hawkeye and Spider-Woman took out the Skrull Infiltrator. Agent Venom put his efforts on to the Skrull Warriors and took both out. In Round 5 Venom Cyborg began targeting Venom. Spider-Woman became a little over zealous after her defeat of Black Widow and Hawkeye and jumped into battle. She did some serious damage to Cyborg but was quickly overwhelmed and defeated by the combination of Cyborg’s strength and Yellow Jacket’s Rage and finally was defeated by Punisher. With Spider-Woman out of the picture the Web Warriors felt a leadership vacuum. In round 6 Punisher set his sights on Antivenom. Cyborg Looked to take down Venom. Agent Venom had other ideas for the Punisher and knocked him out in one blow. Yellow Jacket took down Venom with his massive attack. Yellow Jacket continued his onslaught and took out Antivenom in Round 7. Spiderman stopped Yellow Jackets frenzy and in Round 8 and the game ended in Round 9 Agent Venom took down Ant-man.

THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY:
Spider-Woman is really amazing. The Web Swing synergy is really powerful and I love it because I have felt like Spider-Man needed better team synergy. I feel like her cost is a little low for such a strong synergy. Maybe 220. But she will be a part of future swing line teams.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT:
I like her. I think she could be really good. Reducing the defense die of the attacker for the remainder of the turn is big. Being able to take a turn before other Web Swingers is huge. It is a really good synergy. I wish there were some more web swingers she could partner with. Overall, fun character her attacking Spider-Agility 2 is also a really good power. I think I would keep her as is. Adding some more Web Swingers will be awesome for this. She might need a slight raise in point value but I am not great at the point balancing thing.

Lord Pyre · #32 September 8th, 2021, 10:36 AM

Skinderella game 1: win
Skinderella game 2: win
Arkham game 1: win
Arkham game 2: loss
JoshuaQuinn game 1: huge loss
JoshuaQuinn game 2: win

Both of the allies this that her cost could go up, and Ark thinks it should go down. Obviously I trust Ark more than the others, since her survivability really isn't that great. One more thing to note is that she has good soft synergy with UK, who boosts her stats, which none of these tests utilized.

Bottom line is that she doesn't do anything crazy, but she's solid, so I think I'll take Ark's advice and drop her to 170 given his experience over the others'.

I propose we move to Final Editing at 170

Arkham · #33 September 8th, 2021, 10:55 AM

yea

tcglkn · #34 September 8th, 2021, 10:58 AM

Yea

Arch-vile · #35 September 8th, 2021, 11:54 AM

yea once the SP is updated

Lord Pyre · #36 September 8th, 2021, 12:00 PM

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