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Re: The Book of Master Splinter - Public Playtesting

Okay, change of plan - turns out my mouse has died, so I'm unable to do more playtesting until I get a new one. (Just clarifying - that's computer mouse, I'm not talking about losing a pet here.) Would anyone else be able to wrap this up for me? Massively sorry about this, I was going to run this guy today, this was totally unforseen - whoever wraps this up, if they have a design in playtesting, I will prioritise one of your designs next once I'm up and running again.


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Old April 16th, 2018, 10:42 AM
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Re: The Book of Master Splinter - Public Playtesting

I have some tests I can get up later tonight


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Thanks! You're also going to need to work out precisely where you are with Nemesis if you want to take me up on my offer.


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Re: The Book of Master Splinter - Public Playtesting

Nemisis is on the back burner right now until I get out tests for stuff in Public Testing here and reviews for the SoV, as he’s not a design anyone but me really cares about. I have the testing done though, just takes me ages to write things up. I do need to finish him up so I can cover a Titians design for japes and Noob for Arkham though, so his initials will probably be up sometime this week.


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Nemisis is on the back burner right now until I get out tests for stuff in Public Testing here and reviews for the SoV, as he’s not a design anyone but me really cares about. I have the testing done though, just takes me ages to write things up. I do need to finish him up so I can cover a Titians design for japes and Noob for Arkham though, so his initials will probably be up sometime this week.
I care about the design - not the character, but the card looks like a lot of fun.


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Re: The Book of Master Splinter - Public Playtesting

Ugh, so last night I got something called an 'ocular migraine' which meant I couldn't see anything and I had a splitting headache. Long story short, I didn't get to write up my tests last night, I should have them up tonight once I start feeling better.


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Ugh, so last night I got something called an 'ocular migraine' which meant I couldn't see anything and I had a splitting headache. Long story short, I didn't get to write up my tests last night, I should have them up tonight once I start feeling better.
Oh, I'm so sorry! I've never had a migraine, but my Mum and brother get them, so I know second hand how bad they are. Don't worry about it, chap.


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Re: The Book of Master Splinter - Public Playtesting

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Master Splinter @230 points

Army Test 1
Map: Sewer Labyrinth
Units: Splinter of the Mind's Eye: Splinter (230), Leo (210), Donnie (150), Mikey (170), Meggan (205), - 985 total vs The Approaching Storm: Storm (220), Quentin Quire (130), Sage (190), Vulcan (450)- 990 total
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Army Test 2
Map: Sewer Labyrinth
Units: Shadows of the Empire: Splinter (230), Mikey (170), Hasbro Doom (245), Moloid x15 (150)- 795 total vs A Forest Apart: Groot (275), Rocket Raccoon (175), Cosmo (160), Hasbro Skull (190)- 800 total
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Overall: Splinter seems ok to me, he's pretty strong but he didn't feel broken. It did feel a little odd that both his powers required Ninja Turtles specifically when Leo gets one power that just boosts all ninjas though.

Weirdly, I think I actually liked him a bit better just paired off with one turtle than trying to be part of the big full turtle army. I think that's mostly down to the turtles all having a similar gimmick (lots of melee normal attacks), if I have 3 or 4 of them I'd rather be adding some other options instead of doubling down on that set-up.


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NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Master Splinter @230 points

Army Test 1
Map: Sewer Labyrinth
Units: Splinter of the Mind's Eye: Splinter (230), Leo (210), Donnie (150), Mikey (170), Meggan (205), - 985 total vs The Approaching Storm: Storm (220), Quentin Quire (130), Sage (190), Vulcan (450)- 990 total
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Army Test 2
Map: Sewer Labyrinth
Units: Shadows of the Empire: Splinter (230), Mikey (170), Hasbro Doom (245), Moloid x15 (150)- 795 total vs A Forest Apart: Groot (275), Rocket Raccoon (175), Cosmo (160), Hasbro Skull (190)- 800 total
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Overall: Splinter seems ok to me, he's pretty strong but he didn't feel broken. It did feel a little odd that both his powers required Ninja Turtles specifically when Leo gets one power that just boosts all ninjas though.

Weirdly, I think I actually liked him a bit better just paired off with one turtle than trying to be part of the big full turtle army. I think that's mostly down to the turtles all having a similar gimmick (lots of melee normal attacks), if I have 3 or 4 of them I'd rather be adding some other options instead of doubling down on that set-up.
Thanks, chap!

There was a time when one of Splinter's powers was open to all Ninja, but then both of his powers ended up being stronger and I wanted to encourage taking him with his sons over the Hand, the Foot, the League of Shadows etc.. Leo's Ninja Focus is a minor boost, so it doesn't matter so much there (even though it feels weird to me that he boosts the Foot Clan...)
I'm okay with some people prefering Splinter + 1 or two of his sons rather than a full army of them - there are plenty of times the Turtles work solo or in smaller groups of, say, two, and even the occasional time Splinter ends up helping them out like that. I think there's value to a full Turtle build with all four Turtles and Splinter, but if there are other effective and thematic ways to play him that don't require sinking 700 points into 'butt-kicking ninja action', that's only a good thing.


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Meggan as a Ninja Turtle to further explore that synergy was a rather brilliant bit of testing.
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Looks like the results are in here.

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