Phantom Knights Pre-Release Discussion

[Tai-Pan]

[TheSparkleInYourWater]

Wow, you're fast Tai-Pan.

These are my favorite guys I'm thinking.

Very simple and flavorful. I really like the figures too, they really stand out and with so much scape that's saying something.

[Tai-Pan]

Well, these guys are not quite what I thought they might be. There's nothing about forgetting which master they serve.

They should be pretty amazing against some of the standard tourney builds. Rats are useless against their stealth flying, and having seven defense against stingers or 4th or Krav should be pretty impressive. Four defense might even help them survive Q9 long enough to make at least one attack, but I wouldn't recommend that being their primary use.

Also worth noting, I believe as Knights they add to Sir Dupuis' attack. Awesome

[Thorgrim]

Finally more knights. I don't really like the idea of ghost knights and live knights chilling in an army with dupuis, but it gives awesome characters to go with cyprien in a flying anti range army. Ana gets a bump too. They could even serve as a good distraction for range characters in a zombie army.

[TheSparkleInYourWater]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Finally more knights. I don't really like the idea of ghost knights and live knights chilling in an army with dupuis, but it gives awesome characters to go with cyprien in a flying anti range army. Ana gets a bump too. They could even serve as a good distraction for range characters in a zombie army.

I don't really like the idea of Dupuis. at guru.

Putting them with Cyprien does sound cool, but the Phantoms Insubstantial 3 doesn't work against specials and Cyprien doesn't work against Q9. But who cares?

[Yodaking]

I like the 7 defense vs. normal ranged attacks matched with the 6 stealth flying. They should be able to get around the board and pick out the best targets for their 3 attack pretty easily. At 70 points, seems like a fair deal. I don't see them helping Sir Dupis get more play though. He is kind of hopeless.

[Kroc]

I love these guys, the ultimate anti-range squad. OK, they will only roll 4D against special attacks like Q9, but even that's prety hefty. Against the stingers, the 4th. the 10th? They are going to make those armies much less useful.

I think these guys are the biggest blow to the metagame yet. Much bigger than firestorm (Kurrok+X Fire Elementals). I would be tempted to draft a couple of them into my tournament army just as a defensive measure against most of the most powerful range heavy armies out there. They don't have range but 6 stealth flying gives them a pretty hefty threat range. Like the Shades of Bleakwood, but with a more hefty attack.

Firestorm just makes an already weak choice (all melee) even weaker; it's easy to draft against; and I expect its weak on a water heavy map. These guys? Just toss in a couple and watch the range heavy armies fall.

[NecroBlade]

These guys are nuts! At first glance they look VERY efficient for their cost. Compared to Minions,

+2 Move
+1 Attack
+ Insubstantial
+ Stealth

-2 Defense
- Deadly Strike
- Utgar's Orders

and for 40 points cheaper!

I expect to see quite a bit of play out of these guys.

[skyknight]

My favorite sculpts and figs of this wave. I had a lot of fun with these guys and I am very happy with the sculpts. The knight bonding reminds me of LOTR and the dudes under the hill.

[Creationist]

I love these guys. They are like KOW gone bad. They are also very fast. 6 Move with Stealth Flying is nothing to sneeze at. The main thing that keeps them balanced is that they are a 3 man squad. I will definitely be buying 3+ of this set.

[GromBloodboy]

These guys. The first thought that ran through my head was that these guys were just like the knights, a little faster, harder to kill in range, but with no bonding, and one less figure. My observation from this, still a win for these guys. It does not matter how slow they are, because they move so fast and are so hard to kill with other ranged squads that while the knights get peppered by stingers and maybe get Gilbert and that one extra knight up there, these guys sneak in and bring the house down upon ranged units. These guys are a massive win for me, easily the best in the pack, although the hydra is pretty close.

[Frylock]

Don't forget that these guys will have height more often than not, with that stealth flying and all.