Heroscapers
Go Back   Heroscapers > Custom HeroScape Creations > Custom Units & Army Cards > AotV Customs
AotV Customs A place for Arena of the Valkyrie Customs


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #25  
Old May 20th, 2019, 09:53 PM
flameslayer93's Avatar
flameslayer93 flameslayer93 is offline
I could go
 
Join Date: December 31, 2009
Location: Akina Pass (Cleveland, Ohio)
Posts: 7,134
Images: 93
Blog Entries: 37
flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun
Re: [Pod 0] UNIT NAME (Glyph of Recall) - Pod 0 - Design

Quote:
Originally Posted by Astroking112 View Post
That looks good to me. Why the condition about not being able to place it symbol-side up in any homemade scenarios, though?
Cribbed from Kelda. Its so you can’t waste it by accident.

My customs.
NE Ohio Tourney - TBA
SW Ohio Tourney - NHSD 550 points
AotV - Colliding the minis of AotP with the world of HS.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old May 20th, 2019, 10:04 PM
Astroking112's Avatar
Astroking112 Astroking112 is offline
 
Join Date: March 15, 2011
Location: USA - TX - Dallas
Posts: 2,062
Images: 21
Blog Entries: 39
Astroking112 is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Astroking112 is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Astroking112 is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Astroking112 is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Astroking112 is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Astroking112 is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Astroking112 is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Astroking112 is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Astroking112 is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla
Re: [Pod 0] UNIT NAME (Glyph of Recall) - Pod 0 - Design

Quote:
Originally Posted by flameslayer93 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Astroking112 View Post
That looks good to me. Why the condition about not being able to place it symbol-side up in any homemade scenarios, though?
Cribbed from Kelda. Its so you can’t waste it by accident.
Ah, I see. Looks like I always played Kelda wrong by hiding it as a child.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old May 21st, 2019, 08:43 AM
lefton4ya's Avatar
lefton4ya lefton4ya is offline
PDFin' sweet self spammer
 
Join Date: December 22, 2008
Location: USA - OH/KY - Cincinnati/Florence
Posts: 4,372
Images: 127
Blog Entries: 1
lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death!
Re: [Pod 0] UNIT NAME (Glyph of Recall) - Pod 0 - Design

Yeah seems great. I love that I feel this was a collaborative design as each line or phrase was suggested by different people (including those ripped from Kelda). Here’s hoping all the designs go this way!
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old May 21st, 2019, 09:50 AM
flameslayer93's Avatar
flameslayer93 flameslayer93 is offline
I could go
 
Join Date: December 31, 2009
Location: Akina Pass (Cleveland, Ohio)
Posts: 7,134
Images: 93
Blog Entries: 37
flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun
Re: [Pod 0] UNIT NAME (Glyph of Recall) - Pod 0 - Design

If there are no more concerns, I think we can move this to the testing phase this weekend (to give anyone else a chance to comment).

I believe the most important pieces to test include:
Kyrie Squads
Cavalry Squads
Krav Maga Agents
Downed Marro Warriors (to get a feel of how this glyph could interact with the Phoenixes pre-design)
Airborne Elite
Havechmech Incendiborgs

All of these squads have big stats or self-revival mechanics that could be annoying. I don’t think any of them with be game breaking however. This should cover 6+ games alone. I’d also advocate a few games without the above units in them to help with the spread.

My customs.
NE Ohio Tourney - TBA
SW Ohio Tourney - NHSD 550 points
AotV - Colliding the minis of AotP with the world of HS.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old May 21st, 2019, 11:03 AM
lefton4ya's Avatar
lefton4ya lefton4ya is offline
PDFin' sweet self spammer
 
Join Date: December 22, 2008
Location: USA - OH/KY - Cincinnati/Florence
Posts: 4,372
Images: 127
Blog Entries: 1
lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death!
Re: [Pod 0] UNIT NAME (Glyph of Recall) - Pod 0 - Design

Good suggestions on testing. Also how does this work when a figure (destroyed or not) is on the card of another figure, ala:
  • Skeletons of Annellintia' Necromancy
  • Ebon Armor's Animated Material
  • Mok's Dwarven Gunners/Gunner Casualties (who are not destroyed when placed on Mok but wording of Gunner Casualties says "remove one Dwarf" instead of "destroy one Dwarf"; also after Mok is destroyed the Dwarves are still not destroyed)
  • Marro Gnids' Cling (who are not destroyed)
I am guessing Skeletons and Ebon would come off the card but Gnids and Dwarves would not (as are not destroyed), but "removed" dwarfs would come back. Kinda throws a wrench into the simplicity of Glyph power, but I am sure we can do FAQ or something for these powers.

Last edited by lefton4ya; May 21st, 2019 at 11:22 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old May 21st, 2019, 12:16 PM
flameslayer93's Avatar
flameslayer93 flameslayer93 is offline
I could go
 
Join Date: December 31, 2009
Location: Akina Pass (Cleveland, Ohio)
Posts: 7,134
Images: 93
Blog Entries: 37
flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun
Thumbs up Re: [Pod 0] UNIT NAME (Glyph of Recall) - Pod 0 - Design

I am going to rule it the way I’d rule how Sturla interacts with them (and how it interacts with the Viking Spirits too). Additionally, this post from Xotli regardling Clinging Gnids should agree and give this ruling precedent: https://www.heroscapers.com/communit...26&postcount=6

If a figure was actually destroyed it Recall-able.

Skellies on an Army Card: Good to recall.
Ebon Armor on an Army Card: Good to recall.
Dwarves on Mok: Nope.
Dwarvern Casualties from Mok: Nope.
Gnids on an Army Card: Nope.
Unplaced Figures because you ran out of SZ spaces: Nope. (This one will get an FAQ out of courtesy.

My customs.
NE Ohio Tourney - TBA
SW Ohio Tourney - NHSD 550 points
AotV - Colliding the minis of AotP with the world of HS.
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old May 24th, 2019, 02:57 PM
NecroBlade's Avatar
NecroBlade NecroBlade is offline
"our design team knows what it's doing"
 
Join Date: November 22, 2006
Location: KY - Shepherdsville
Posts: 20,489
Images: 85
Blog Entries: 21
NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth
Re: [Pod 0] UNIT NAME (Glyph of Recall) - Pod 0 - Design

Destroyed = can be Recalled.
Not destroyed = cannot be Recalled.

Basically.

I don't think we need "in the game" since nothing ever applies to previously played games. Otherwise I think this makes a good glyph.

317-149
C3V Brainstorm
Pepperony - 14/09/13
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old June 2nd, 2019, 10:40 AM
flameslayer93's Avatar
flameslayer93 flameslayer93 is offline
I could go
 
Join Date: December 31, 2009
Location: Akina Pass (Cleveland, Ohio)
Posts: 7,134
Images: 93
Blog Entries: 37
flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun flameslayer93 is a penguin with a machine gun
Re: [Pod 0] UNIT NAME (Glyph of Recall) - Pod 0 - Design

I believe this glyph can officially enter the testing phase since no additional voices have questioned it. Updating the OP now.

My customs.
NE Ohio Tourney - TBA
SW Ohio Tourney - NHSD 550 points
AotV - Colliding the minis of AotP with the world of HS.
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old June 2nd, 2019, 05:23 PM
lefton4ya's Avatar
lefton4ya lefton4ya is offline
PDFin' sweet self spammer
 
Join Date: December 22, 2008
Location: USA - OH/KY - Cincinnati/Florence
Posts: 4,372
Images: 127
Blog Entries: 1
lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death! lefton4ya is hot lava death!
Re: [Pod 0] Glyph of Recall - Pod 0 - Testing

I understand @NecroBlade ’s thinking in not needing “in the game”, but I just wanted to make sure upon reading the power for newbies that it means if at lest one figure from you OR your opponent OR teammate is destroyed, so “in the game” was the easiest wording I thought of to clarify that. But if there is other wording please suggest, or if people feel it is not necessary than I’d be OK with current wording.
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old June 21st, 2019, 09:33 AM
NecroBlade's Avatar
NecroBlade NecroBlade is offline
"our design team knows what it's doing"
 
Join Date: November 22, 2006
Location: KY - Shepherdsville
Posts: 20,489
Images: 85
Blog Entries: 21
NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth
Re: [Pod 0] Glyph of Recall - Pod 0 - Testing

Your figures and your opponent's (and your teammate's) all qualify as "previously destroyed Squad figures". There's no need to clarify since we're not ruling anything out. If we felt the need to do anything, maybe throw an "any" in front of that phrase.

317-149
C3V Brainstorm
Pepperony - 14/09/13
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old June 21st, 2019, 11:31 AM
Astroking112's Avatar
Astroking112 Astroking112 is offline
 
Join Date: March 15, 2011
Location: USA - TX - Dallas
Posts: 2,062
Images: 21
Blog Entries: 39
Astroking112 is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Astroking112 is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Astroking112 is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Astroking112 is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Astroking112 is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Astroking112 is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Astroking112 is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Astroking112 is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Astroking112 is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla
Re: [Pod 0] Glyph of Recall - Pod 0 - Testing

I think that the "When one of your figures stops here, you must choose a previously destroyed Squad figure..." in the OP is pretty clear. Making it mandatory to choose a previously destroyed Squad figure inherently makes me feel like it could also be a negative effect (even if in practice it never will). We could always change "a previously destroyed" to "any previously destroyed" to make it even clearer, but I don't think it should be that big of a problem.

The benefit of adding an "in the game" to the clause would be that we can specifically prevent a squad figure from being revived with some sort of power by removing them from the game rather than destroying them. Nothing comes to mind for a current use for that, though, and I'm not particularly fond of adding that in the same set as the glyph itself, so I think that we're fine without that clause.
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old June 22nd, 2019, 12:39 PM
NecroBlade's Avatar
NecroBlade NecroBlade is offline
"our design team knows what it's doing"
 
Join Date: November 22, 2006
Location: KY - Shepherdsville
Posts: 20,489
Images: 85
Blog Entries: 21
NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth
Re: [Pod 0] Glyph of Recall - Pod 0 - Testing

So how about this...

Temporary Glyph
Figures may only stop on this Glyph if there are one or more any previously destroyed Squad figures. When one of your figures stops here, you must choose a previously destroyed Squad figure and place it adjacent to your figure. This glyph cannot be placed symbol-side up in any scenario you may create.

317-149
C3V Brainstorm
Pepperony - 14/09/13
Reply With Quote
Reply

Go Back   Heroscapers > Custom HeroScape Creations > Custom Units & Army Cards > AotV Customs
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
[Pod 0] HONORED SOUL-GUIDES (Lantern Geists) - Design NecroBlade AotV Customs 181 Yesterday 12:25 PM
[Pod 0] Ozuul (Eldrazi Ruiner) - Editing NecroBlade AotV Customs 196 Yesterday 09:13 AM
[Pod 0] Pillar of Hár (Crypolith) - Design flameslayer93 AotV Customs 110 December 13th, 2019 09:27 PM
[Pod 0] Velnesh Alphas (Leyline Phantoms) - Editing NecroBlade AotV Customs 223 December 13th, 2019 09:06 PM
[Pod 0] Glyph of Knowledge - Testing flameslayer93 AotV Customs 48 November 23rd, 2019 10:03 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:08 PM.

Heroscape background footer

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.