Proto's Customs--Back in Business, 10/9!

ProtoFury · #1 December 9th, 2009, 10:55 PM

ProtoFury's Custom Units

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Therians

Backstory--"Vydar's Decision"

Spoiler Alert!

Darkness. Silence.

The cavern is nearly pitch-black in the subterranean night. The only sounds are the occasional whirring of the Soulborgs who stand guard at the entrances of Vydar's underground stronghold. The entire complex, usually bright and bustling around the clock, has been shut down for the third night in a row. None of the occupants dares cause a commotion, hoping that their lord has a restful night's sleep.

Darkness. Silence.

It is nearing middle-night. The eerie stillness of the cavern drives away the few who would stay and work. After four hours of stillness, most of the inhabitants have begun their rest. Even the ever-vigilant Major Q9 has gone on standby.

In the darkness, a horrific wail rings out, terrifying all who hear.

The doors to the Archkyrie's Quarters burst open, and the general Vydar, lord of the stronghold, steps out. In his face is the look of one who has seen Hell itself. His guards rush to his side, but he orders them to return to their posts. He heads towards an exit, unsure of his own thoughts.

Darkness. Silence.

Vydar steps out of the exit, and breathes in the cool, crisp night air. He begins to walk from the entrance, ordering his guards not to follow. This journey is for him alone, this decision for him alone. He takes in another long breath to clear his head.

Darkness. Silence.

Vydar spreads his large black wings, lets out a large sigh, and takes to the air. It has been years since he has flown in these lands without an escort of guards, but he has no fear this night. Scouting parties have reported no enemy activity in the area for over a week. Since Vydar's betrayal of Utgar, and the destruction of the Hive, Utgar had been hitting back, and hitting hard. Vydar's forces always kept a strong presence, but none outside his own ranks knew how hard this war was becoming for Vydar's army. Even without the Hive, Utgar's forces had been growing exponentially. Not that Vydar had any idea what Utgar was up to. For all he knew, Utgar could have sent a small group of warriors to assassinate him this very night. By being out alone, he could be making Utgar's job even easier. At any moment, Tul-Bak-Ra could teleport in with a group of those damned Stingers and finish him off. Isamu could appear out from the midde of a group of trees and slay him with that dreaded speed of his, or Mimring could swoop down and crush him into the dirt. Utgar's army was never at a lack of new and horrific ways to kill.

Vydar didn't believe that there would be any enemy assassins out to get him on this particular night, but wouldn't care even if there were. If they killed him, at least the damned dreams would stop.

Darkness. Silence.

It had been eleven nights now. Eleven appalling nights since the dreams began. He knew from the start that these weren't just any dreams. Nor were they the regular frightening, supernatural dreams given by the waters of the wellsprings. Something was different.

At first, the dreams were nothing more than vague blurs, yet for some reason, Vydar feared them. Every night after that, the dreams had become more and more clear, until this night, when Vydar had awoken in such terror that he had feared for his very life.

Vydar knew this area well. He flies low, nearing the entrance to this secret and sacred area. The full moon moves out from beind a cloud, and Vydar can make out every detail of the familiar landscape in its glow, before another dark cloud obscures the soft moonlight.

Darkness. Silence.

The dreams came every night, making sleep impossible for the troubled Archkyrie. Three nights back, he had even ordered the entire complex to be shut down, something that had not happened for years. None of that had helped.

The cool breeze propels Vydar towads his destination--a secret wellspring only he knew about. About this far ino the journey, Vydar would always comand his guards to stay where they were, so the knowledge of the mystical waters' whereabouts would stay with him. It was his way of making sure the knowledge would never fall into the wrong hands.

Truth be told, Vydar was never fond of the idea of summoning warriors from other worlds, and instead took to creating much of his Soulborg army in the very stronghold he had left behind--thanks to the knowledge of a few Soulborgs he summoned early on. To the rest of his ranks, the ones he had summoned from other worlds, he had promised a return home as soon as it were possible. Never mind that it would require the defeat of Utgar, which could very likely kill them all in the process.

Darkness. Silence.

As Vydar nears his destination, his mind once again turns to his purpose. The dreams.

The dreams were of a future far beyond anything he or the other generals had witnessed in their visions brought on by drinking from the Wellsprings. The farthest that any of the Archkyrie had viewed was a few thousand years forward or back--Vydar's dreams showed him a time hundreds of thousands of years in the future.

In these dreams, he saw a race of beings that were unlike anything he had ever seen. They appeared to be some kind of combination between man and machine, far more sophisticated than any Soulborg technology. These creatures hailed from the planet Earth... Meaning that at some point, they must have been human. However-many eons had passed since then no longer mattered--it was clear that these creatures were no ordinary species. After combining with machines, they had engineered themselves to be immortal.

In these dreams, he saw these creatures, called Therians, spread throughout the universe. The Therians has unlimited resources, unlimited numbers, and unlimited power. They had begun a project without precedent--they had begun to change the physical sturcture of the universe. By constructing strange spheres around stars and planets, the Therians were arranging the universe in the way they saw fit.

Darkness. Silence.

Vydar descends further, and after flying for a few more moments, lands. The entrance would not be far, and who knows what the enemy could do if one of their scouts saw him flying to it. His last hope would be lost. A hope for his people, for his army... For his dreams.

These strange creatures--these Therians--would stop at nothing to accomplish their goals. In his dreams, Vydar often saw wars between the Therians and other species--even wars with a human species they had originally created and modeled after their original ancient forms. These wars would rage for years, but there was no defeating the Therians. Their legions could be fought against, but in the end, the therians woud always win. Their unlimited resources and numbers simply made any rsistance a waiting game. They were, after all, immortal--provided they didn't fall in battle. But even then, some had the ability to use the bodies of other Therians to revive themselves.

But these creatures didn't have forever. That was the reason for their entire mission. Once they had succeeded in engineering their own immortality, they realized that there would always be an end. According to all of their data, the universe would eventually implode on itself, destroying everything they had worked so hard to create. Their project was one nearly infathomable to Vydar--to rearrange every star and planet in the universe to keep everything from imploding. To Vydar, it was surely impossible, but in his visions, the Therians had already made substantial progress.

Darkness. Silence.

As Vydar walks, the entrance to the small cave appears in the side of the large hill before him. Something eats at the back of his mind, telling him to turn back. A foreboding presence fills the air, but Vydar presses on.

These dreams of the Therians were terrifying, but Vydar didn't believe that they were truly evil. In the long run, the Therians were working towards the preservation of life, a noble cause by anyone's standards. Even though the Therians were only concerned with the preservation of their species, they allowed other species to live in peace. The Therians even helped certain species in some cases--a race similar to the Primadons in Vydar's own army owed their intelligence to the Therians.

Only when an intelligent species couldn't see the benefits of the Therians' long-term plan was war an option. Short-sighted species had no place in the universe being shaped by the Therians.

Darkness. Silence.

Vydar passes through the entrance to the small cavern, lit only by the dim glow coming from the fifteen small pools of the Wellspring. He pauses and swallows hard, second-guessing his decision.

Utgar's forces had been gaining strength and territory as of late, even taking up positions in the vast network of caverns under Valhalla--this "Underdark," as it was commonly referred to. Jandar, Einar, and Aquilla had summoned heroes to explore these dungeons, while Vydar and Ullar had opted to deal with the threat on the surface. Utgar had legions of deadly warriors above ground, and Vydar cold only guess at what Utgar was doing in the Underdark.

The enemies of Utgar needed something new. They were losing this war; of that, Vydar was sure. Now was time for action.

Darkness. Silence.

Vydar steps towards the center of the room, towards the rasied circular platform bearing only two small pillars. These pillars were no more than a hand's width, and barely came up to his waist. There was enough room in between them for a kyrie to stand at them and place both hands on the top. Vydar knew the feeling of the pillars well; he was no stranger to the smooth stone of the room.

Vydar looks down at the pillars, knowing that the fate of their world could ride on this decision.

By not bringing these warriors to Valhalla, Vydar knew he risked the fate of the war. And if Utgar won this war, he would use the Wellsprings to invade and conquer the worlds opened to the Archkyrie in their dreams.

By summoning the Therians, the forces of good could have the edge they needed in this war. It would finally be winnable.

But by summoning these creatures, Vydar knew he yet again risked the fate of their world. If they chose not to fight for him, and fought alongside Utgar's forces, all would most certainly be lost. Or worse, they could choose to fight by themselves against all of the Archkyrie. They wouldn't have the unlimited numbers they would be accustomed to, but Vydar didn't doubt that they would be able to use their knowledge to begin producing more of their kind, eventually taking over Valhalla and using it as a base to begin their project anew.

Darkness. Silence.

Vydar makes his decision, knowing that at this moment, the fate of the world could very well depend on him. A bead of sweat rolls down the side of his face.

Vydar takes a deep breath and swallows hard, steadying his resolve. He puts all fears out of his mind and concentrates on his dreams.

After a moment, Vydar reaches his hands out and places them on the two pillars.

Darkness. Silence.

Unit Cards

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Marro

Unit Cards

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Been quite a while, but I've been bitten by the old 'Scape bug again and so I'm gonna be jumping back into the swing of things! Once I get myself all re-settled, the first item on the agenda is finishing up the Marro Hunters and the Cogs, for your playing pleasure.

Until next time,

~ProtoFury~

Soundwarp SG-1 · #2 December 10th, 2009, 12:33 AM

Nice cards

Some thoughts on the Hero

You might want to change the name of the Golem Leadership power, currently all __ Leadership powers have been movement boosts. Maybe something like Golem Command?

Speaking of that power, you have an extra 'move' before 'either', though I think it could use some rewording if you want it to sound more official anyway.

How about:

After revealing an order marker on this card, you may either:

Move up to 2 Storm Golem Squad figures you control, the figures must be within 4 clear sight spaces of Sigma Urash before moving.
Move and attack with 1 Storm Golem Squad figure you control, the figure must be within 6 clear sight spaces of Sigma Urash before moving.

I think that fills some loopholes that were in the original power, this wording might need something at the end to clarify that Sigma still gets to take a turn though.

I don't now anything about the characters, but unless there are multiple types of overseer I'd ditch the 'Sigma' from the class. That way the class is more general and he could have some potential for synergy outside his group.

The way you've worded 'Nanomintions' and 'Reaper Blades' almost makes it sound like Reaper Blades gives the bonus to all figures you control, which I'm guessing isn't what you intended.

Maybe something like this (taken from Agent Carr's wording)

Nanomuntions
If Sigma Urash is attacking a non-adjacent figure, add one extra skull to what ever is rolled.

Reaper Blades
If Sigma Urash is attacking an adjacent figure, add 2 dice to Sigma Urash’s attack.

The Storm Golems

The powers seem fine as is, but if you want slightly more official sounding wording you might want to try:

Nanomuntions
When rolling attack dice against a non-adjacent figure, a Storm Golem always add one extra skull to whatever is rolled.

Reaper Blades
When rolling attack dice against an adjacent figure, a Storm Golem adds 2 to its attack dice.

Personally, I don’t like their class being the same as their name. It has been done officially a few times, but I’ve never liked the practice. Also, it's kind of weird to have Golem as their class, what would happen if we got real Golems (as in DnD or Jewish folklore style) in the game latter on? Maybe change the class to Warriors, Soldiers or Drones maybe?

Overall, I like these guys and they seem reasonably balanced. Nice Job

Therrian · #3 December 10th, 2009, 12:45 AM

Therrian just isn't powerful enough. He should have 89 lives, 63 attack, 97 defense and a range of 20000. Give him a movement of 1 though, that will balance him out.

As for the customs here, they look pretty cool

. Wording changes to the abilities like the ones presented above would help...try to copy the wording and/or structure of the abilities that exist in the game already. That tends to help prevent overwording an ability.

But a nice start overall...other then...you know the whole underpowered thing

ProtoFury · #4 December 10th, 2009, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Soundwarp SG-1

Some thoughts on the Hero

You might want to change the name of the Golem Leadership power, currently all __ Leadership powers have been movement boosts. Maybe something like Golem Command?

Speaking of that power, you have an extra 'move' before 'either', though I think it could use some rewording if you want it to sound more official anyway.

How about:

After revealing an order marker on this card, you may either:

Move up to 2 Storm Golem Squad figures you control, the figures must be within 4 clear sight spaces of Sigma Urash before moving.
Move and attack with 1 Storm Golem Squad figure you control, the figure must be within 6 clear sight spaces of Sigma Urash before moving.

I think that fills some loopholes that were in the original power, this wording might need something at the end to clarify that Sigma still gets to take a turn though.

First things first, I guess I never realized the Leadership usually affecting movement thing. I'll defnitely get to changing that to a more original name. And thanks for the cue-in about the mis-wording.

I wasn't sure about the wording of that power either though, so it's nice that you pointed that out. I'll probably change it to something ver similar to your suggstion, if you don't mind.

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Originally Posted by Soundwarp SG-1

I don't now anything about the characters, but unless there are multiple types of overseer I'd ditch the 'Sigma' from the class. That way the class is more general and he could have some potential for synergy outside his group.

There's the rub--there are a couple different kinds of overseers in the game (at least as much as I've ordered). Sigma Urash is a Rank-Sigma Overseer, the commander unit that will be my major hero in the group is Omega Tiamat, and she's a Rank-Omega Overseer, and I've also got a more basic Storm Overseer and Assault Overseer, neither of which have any special rankings. I wouldn't have put in anything more than Overseer class, except for the fact that it will matter heavily for one unit.

Omega Tiamat comes with a machine called a Nanoregenerator, which (in the AT-43 game) can actually be used to revive her if she gets destroyed. The catch is that it requires the body of an Overseer to do it, effectiely killing off that Overseer. I thought it was an interesting concept, and so was going to make the Nanoregenerator a 60-point hero (Tiamat will be 160-points) that can fully revive Tiamat if it destroys an adjacnt Overseer. Considering in a cohesive 400-600 point army build, the cost of Tiama, the Nanoregenerator, and the cheapest Overseer (a 100-point unique hero) would be 320 points, the cost of Tiamat herself drafted twice. (It also severely impedes the synergy of the group, because I don't think I'm going to have any direct bonding between any of the Golem units and Tiamat, although there is bonding between the sacrifced Overseers and the Golems. I figured it all evens itself out.)

Anyway, the regenerator's power has you roll the d20, and if it's a 3 or higher, you destroy an adjacent Overseer unit and replace it with Omega Tiamat (a roll of 1 or 2 is a malfunction, and just destroysthe Overseer). However, I noticed a potential problem with the Nanoregenerator--unless I got very specific with the wording, one may be tempted to try to kill off Omega Tiamat with the regenerator, since she herself is an Overseer, and then reive her. To keep this from becoing a dangerous loophole, and to keep it from becoming character-specific to Tiamat (in case any future Therian commanders are released that may be able to do this as well), I limited the wording to not allow the sacrafice of adjacent Omega Overseers, meaning I would have to distinguish the diferent ranks of Overseers from each other--thus, Sigma Urash became a "Sigma Overseer," instead of just an "Overseer."

Thinking about it now though, I can change Omega Tiamat to Commander instead of an Overseer type (even though it will deviate rom the original game's storyline a bit), and relieve his whole mess. That will make Sigma Urash just an Overseer. Sorry about the long story, but it was thought provoking for me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soundwarp SG-1

The way you've worded 'Nanomintions' and 'Reaper Blades' almost makes it sound like Reaper Blades gives the bonus to all figures you control, which I'm guessing isn't what you intended.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soundwarp SG-1

Maybe something like this (taken from Agent Carr's wording)

Nanomuntions
If Sigma Urash is attacking a non-adjacent figure, add one extra skull to what ever is rolled.

Reaper Blades
If Sigma Urash is attacking an adjacent figure, add 2 dice to Sigma Urash’s attack.

Again, much simpler wording from someone who has paid a heck of a lot more attention to customs than me up till now. I'll get on that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soundwarp SG-1

The Storm Golems

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soundwarp SG-1

The powers seem fine as is, but if you want slightly more official sounding wording you might want to try:

Nanomuntions
When rolling attack dice against a non-adjacent figure, a Storm Golem always adds one extra skull to whatever is rolled.

Reaper Blades
When rolling attack dice against an adjacent figure, a Storm Golem adds 2 to its attack dice.

Sounds good.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soundwarp SG-1

Personally, I don’t like their class being the same as their name. It has been done officially a few times, but I’ve never liked the practice. Also, it's kind of weird to have Golem as their class, what would happen if we got real Golems (as in DnD or Jewish folklore style) in the game latter on? Maybe change the class to Warriors, Soldiers or Drones maybe?

I wasn't so hot on their class being the same as their name either, but this is one I actually think I'm going to go with. In AT-43, they're all referred to as Storm Golems (unless I'm mistaken--I need my units to get here...

), and differentiated by their weaponry and such. I decided to split up the Storm Golem category into Storm Golems, Heavy Storms, Flamer Storms, and Storm Leader (as well as making the splitting the Assaults into Assault Golems, Heavy Assaults, Flamer Assaults, and Assault Leader, who suffer the same issue).

And just making their class "Golem" wouldn't work, because there's three different kinds of Therian Golems (to date): Storm Golems, Assaut Golems, and Grim Golems. All of these will have their own seperate laders and Overseers, and I'm planning on restricting each Overseer to offer benefits to their specific type of Golem (i.e., the Assault Overseer only offers benefits of Assault Golems--just to keep with the theme), so there needs to be the differenciation of the classes.

And about us possibly getting real Golems in the game--it wouldn't really affect mine. I can change the wording of Overseers like Sigma Urash, who can serve as Overseers for and type, to only include Therian Golems in their powers, if I ever need to. But the ned to stay within the Golem class, because in all honesty, that's what they are in the actual AT-43 game.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soundwarp SG-1

Overall, I like these guys and they seem reasonably balanced. Nice Job

Thanks for the comments! I did a lot of thinking on stats and powers and pricing, so I'm glad the only really problems you saw were in wording of powers and classes and such. It's always nice to have an extensive, thought-out review of customs as well, so thanks for spending the time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Therrian

Therrian just isn't powerful enough. He should have 89 lives, 63 attack, 97 defense and a range of 20000. Give him a movement of 1 though, that will balance him out.

As for the customs here, they look pretty cool

. Wording changes to the abilities like the ones presented above would help...try to copy the wording and/or structure of the abilities that exist in the game already. That tends to help prevent overwording an ability.

But a nice start overall...other then...you know the whole underpowered thing

You know, I'm tired of your attitude. It's getting out of control. You really need to stop underestimating yourself.

I'd say at least 106 defense, and 92 lives. Probably could bump that move up to 4 as well. And who needs LoS?? I'll give al your attacks a Lob of 400.

Aw, shoot... Just to make you feel special, I'll throw in the Unique Hero label for ya, too.

EDIT: Updated with the edited versions of Sigma Urash and Storm Golems.

Lamaclown · #5 December 10th, 2009, 09:21 AM

Glad to see you here Proto!

Great sculpts for your cards. I had seen them and considered doing some customs for them but now I don't have to. Besides, if you are as good at customs as you are with maps, yours will be better than mine would have been anyway.

The way Golem Dispatchment is worded I will be able to use him in the line of customs I am currently working on for the game Arcane Legions. There are Golem units in that game as well.

Anyhow, just wanted to stop by and say good job on your first customs.

ProtoFury · #6 December 24th, 2009, 01:02 AM

Well, I'm bringing this thread back with some new updates!

I updated the first post in it's entirety, with updates to the existing cards, and a few new additions. I'm working on some more guys tonight, but I've still got quite a bit of work ahead of me on the rest of the cards, and I picked up some more AT-43 guys yesterday--the Bane Goliaths. Just another card to add to my list--I should have a total of 16 for my Therian Army by the time I get what I have finished.

Let me know what you think of the new (and the improved) units!

ProtoFury · #7 January 5th, 2010, 10:58 PM

The thread has been update again! All the major updates are outlined in the bottom of the original post, but here's a quick summary:

-All of the Army Cards have been finished foe the Therian Army. I will post them in small increments.

-The first three units in the Assault Series have been unveiled--the Assault Golems, Heavy Assaults, and Assault Flamers. Feedback is very welcome!

-The whole layout has been reorganized, obviously. Hopefully that makes it easier for you guys to find what you want.

-I wrote and added a backstory of the Therian units in the HeroScape storyline. I'll also be posting the short story in the Fanfics section, because I think it's good.

And that's all for this update! Comment away!

ProtoFury · #8 January 7th, 2010, 03:56 AM

Two next cards! These complete the synergies of the Assault faction. Only four more to go before the army is completely posted!

Assault Overseer

Assault Leader

Comments and criticism are welcome! Thanks!

Lamaclown · #9 January 7th, 2010, 04:40 PM

Good work, ProtoFury.
I like the way the army is shaping up. There are some good synergies going on (really makes me wish I had the figs for it).

For the Reaper Blade ability, can it be used when the fig is being enhanced by other means such as an attack aura from Taelord or a glyph?
If not, it might be easier to just make it a special attack with a range of 1 since special attacks cannot be altered by anything.

Also, on the Assault Overseer, is EDIUM 5 a new size class you made up?

ProtoFury · #10 January 7th, 2010, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamaclown

Good work, ProtoFury.
I like the way the army is shaping up. There are some good synergies going on (really makes me wish I had the figs for it).

Thanks, Lama! I spent quite a while getting the synergies to be just right (IMO). I don't think any of them getto powerful for the points these guys cost, especially because these guys are rather pricey.

And the figures are awesome, it's just a matter of finding them at non-insane prices. (I guess they're more norma, prices for most mnis games, though. Scape has been my only real minis experience.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamaclown

For the Reaper Blade ability, can it be used when the fig is being enhanced by other means such as an attack aura from Taelord or a glyph?
If not, it might be easier to just make it a special attack with a range of 1 since special attacks cannot be altered by anything.

Reaper Blades were something that I had originally not put any limits on, and left the power much like that the Mohicans have. But in my playtesting, I had the chance to use the Storm Golems' blades against the knights. However, I had heght, an attack glyph, and two of the four had bonuses from the Storm Leader. Two out of four of the Golems rolling six attack dice, and the other two rolling five, was way too much.

I made Reaper Blades not be affected by height advantage to help mitigate that, and changed the wording of Storm Troop Enhancement and Assault Troop Enhancement to not affect Reaper Blades. That way, barring Taelord and any Glyphs, the attack is a solid 3, no matter what. But I don't want to leave outside bonuses out. Glyphs are suppose to be powerful, and Taelord costs way too much to ignore his bonus. The Glyphs should be a major area of focus anyway, and if someone's daring enough to use Taelord with these (already expensive) units, they deserve that bonus, IMO.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamaclown

Also, on the Assault Overseer, is EDIUM 5 a new size class you made up?

I wish... I'll fix that presently.

ProtoFury · #11 January 10th, 2010, 10:08 PM

Boy, do threads drop to the second page quickly in the Custom Units forum! I'm still getting used to my home-away-from-home here in the Customs thread, and it's quite different than my maps thread, which can stay on page one for over a week, at times. Nevertheless, after finishing my Therian army, I'm glad I took this venture into Custom Units.

Anyway, I got antsy about posting the rest other army, so I posted the last four cards in one chunk. Not only that, but I went through and re-made all my cards with the Magic Set Editor. I think they look a lot better, but I think I did pretty darned good with MS Paint before. I figured this is a tradeoff--I get cards that I can go in and edit instead of remaking parts of, and I lose the cool fonts I was doing the names in. I'll take the edit-able cards, thank you very much.

Here's the last additions to my Therian Army! Like I said in the OP, this is when I need your guys opinions especially, since the whole army is up now. Now that all the abilities, synergies, and units are up for everyone, you guys can get a good view of how everything works together. I think that things are pretty well-balanced, but again, I'm no expert.

Anyway, here are the latest additions!

Omega Tiamat

Nanoregenerator

Assault Goliath

Bane Goliath

And that's all for now! My new Marro customs should be up soon. Keep looking over the next week for Pro-Fu-Ra, the Marro Hunters, and the Marrden Thrasher!

LMB · #12 January 12th, 2010, 05:52 AM

Nice use of "Uncommon Hero".

I may have to print out some of these cards for use in my AT-43/HS games. Good job!

In regards to your sig.... it wouldn't take an army, just one fig dropped in the diaper... LOL. j/k

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