Sandman (William Baker)

[Soundwarp SG-1]

Oh I got you. Wasn't like trying to argue or whatnot. Just trying to lay out my thoughts on it.

[IAmBatman]

Baller

[Ronin]

Yeah, we can clean up the language on the special move for sure.

Honestly not sure vis-a-vis the point drop being enough to offset the nerf to the healing. 200 points isn't some specific number I'm trying to hit and it might be better to not hit it, really, since Kraven is already there.

Originally Posted by MrNobody

I know we talked about it a bit initially, but I think having healing factor hurt his playability in the S6. The change here definitely powers him down, but I think it still fundamentally leaves him as a shark in a team that doesn’t like sharks.

I'm not sure he still 100% qualifies as a shark with the healing at this level. That said, we could do a new Sandman card that's more of an A+ faction fit for sure. But I was fine with just carrying this one over, with some tweaks to round off the annoying endgame edge cases. I think "guy who can just hit stuff" is still a meaningful niche for the S6 and he does well-enough in it.

[japes]

Originally Posted by Ronin

Yeah, we can clean up the language on the special move for sure.

Good this is a family site.

[Yodaking]

I'm okay with just finding where the points fall then if 200 isn't needed for something. Powerset looks fine to me.

[MrNobody]

Originally Posted by MrNobody

I'm not sure he still 100% qualifies as a shark with the healing at this level. That said, we could do a new Sandman card that's more of an A+ faction fit for sure. But I was fine with just carrying this one over, with some tweaks to round off the annoying endgame edge cases. I think "guy who can just hit stuff" is still a meaningful niche for the S6 and he does well-enough in it.

I'd just lean instead towards something like tacking Healing 1 onto Sand Form. But whatever works! I don't think that he's bad in the S6 in 1.0 or anything.

[japes]

Originally Posted by Yodaking

I'm okay with just finding where the points fall then if 200 isn't needed for something. Powerset looks fine to me.

Well the points are kind of important for the Original Sinister 6. Four are on deck and one to go after Sandman. Mysterio is the only one left.

Oops quoted the wrong thread.
@Ronin I thought his point total was suppose to stay the same to fit the team? Or did you tweak somewhere else in the team.
He was 210 originally right?

[Ronin]

Originally Posted by japes

Well the points are kind of important for the Original Sinister 6. Four are on deck and one to go after Sandman. Mysterio is the only one left.

Oops quoted the wrong thread.
@Ronin I thought his point total was suppose to stay the same to fit the team? Or did you tweak somewhere else in the team.
He was 210 originally right?

Yeah he was originally 210, I just figured if we were nerfing the healing to make him less of an annoying endgame piece he should probably lose some points?

Mysterio is getting more tweaks than Sandman (and I'm specifically hoping to give him a little more to do) so I kinda figured as long as we were somewhere in the ballpark of Sandy's original cost we were probably fine.

[japes]

Originally Posted by Ronin

Yeah he was originally 210, I just figured if we were nerfing the healing to make him less of an annoying endgame piece he should probably lose some points?

Mysterio is getting more tweaks than Sandman (and I'm specifically hoping to give him a little more to do) so I kinda figured as long as we were somewhere in the ballpark of Sandy's original cost we were probably fine.

awesome...as long as you have a plan to keep them at 1000 total.

[IAmBatman]

Mysterio could probably use some juicing, so sounds like a solid plan.

[Splash]

Sounds cool, I'd like a more active Mysterio.
Outside the original 6, Sandman and Kraven being swappable allows for more options as well.

[Ronin]

Originally Posted by MrNobody

I'd just lean instead towards something like tacking Healing 1 onto Sand Form. But whatever works! I don't think that he's bad in the S6 in 1.0 or anything.

Missed this because it somehow became a MrNobody quote - I could be cool with that direction too! I think I was just trying to make sure Sandstorm saw some use, it feels a little soft next to his big attack sometimes.