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I actually think Protectors are a little underrated/underplayed, but they're very different from Sentinels/Minions, so it's really like a whole other topic. I don't think I'd push them up from B, but I think they're an interesting unit that's pretty good and you never see them played. Aaaand Imperium are Imperium |
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-High Cost per figure -Low Defense -Lack of Defensive Powers But theyre definately fun to play when they work. My customs. NE Ohio Tourney - TBA SW Ohio Tourney - NHSD 550 points AotV - Colliding the minis of AotP with the world of HS. |
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But at 140pt. they're too hard to fit. Even x1, which I've considered at times. |
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"Our mother has been absent ever since we founded Rome; but there's gonna be a party when the wolf comes home." |
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Re: Heroscape Power Rankings: Complete?
I'm almost certain the Einar Imperium were playtested at the standard kyrie 110 points and were heavily nerfed after coming out too strong. Maybe even nerfed defense as well as points. Double attack is really really good on a common squad. I feel the same way about Sir Dupuis who was definitely playtested as a Knight bonding hero and heavily nerfed, in losing Champion status and probably raised in cost too. The stats just don't really make sense with Heroscape precedent
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Re: Heroscape Power Rankings: Complete?
I'm inclined to agree, but rushed nerfs are usually my best guess to explain most underpowered units (such as Hatamoto Taro). For whatever reason, the Einar Imperium are woefully overpriced, and I can't help but wish that they had released at the same point value as all of the other Kyrie squads.
Sir Dupuis was always another figure that I never got much value out of, but I haven't actually used him since I purchased some Knights of Weston. I'll have to test him out sometime to get a better idea of how he functions when he actually has his intended units with him (although I don't expect it'll be too great). Proud Member of Platyfly!
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Re: Heroscape Power Rankings: Complete?
I understand that this could take a substantial amount of time, but I feel like a lot of the short summaries are too short. a few examples are:
Black Wyrmlings- "Cute as Krav or PK tech." Eltahale- "She's pretty neat and has a cool attack." Emirroon- "Well, he's more reliable than Saylind." Granite Guardians- "They're just like Minions... only not." Grok Riders- "I don't Grok the Groks." Rhogar Dragonspine- "He's a dude." Shurrak- "Bowl for Romans!" There are more like this, but I feel like you get the point. Not to mention, there are a few that just refer you to other units, but I don't think that's super helpful, especially for newcomers to the game. While I get that these descriptions aren't all too serious, what would someone who doesn't understand the meta gain from (say Grimnak's description, which is literally just "CHOMP.") reading them? I know there are pages for each unit, but I think it would be really cool for a more comprehensive, definitive list of descriptions for each unit. I really don't have a problem with the tier list, I just wish there were better justifications for why the tier list is as it is. Also, since the original post hasn't been updated since 2012, I'm sure there have been shifts in the meta since, so an update would be incredible. Thank you for letting me ramble (P.S. I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it, but PDF attached to the original post is heeeaavily outdated. Like, only waves 1-7 are on that PDF) |
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Re: Heroscape Power Rankings: Complete?
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Re: Heroscape Power Rankings: Complete?
To be fair, Grimnak's 'CHOMP' and Rhogar's 'He's a dude' are classics.
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