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Old March 19th, 2018, 05:28 PM
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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Mera) (Vote for Initial)

I'd be fine with her placing a water-tile under her then removing it if she moves. Rinse and repeat. I lose all interest in the design if we have another figure that needs someone that can place water down for them to be effective. Unless of course, your map resembles water world.
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Old March 19th, 2018, 07:13 PM
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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Mera) (Vote for Initial)

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Have you seen Young Justice the cartoon? Mera acts in the same way (but more angry) that Kal'durham does in that series. She literally carries water with her everywhere because she needs it for her powers to be effective. Her Blackest Night variation is still a variation on her main character which is dependent on water. She became the Red because the Black Lantern had stolen Arthur from her again.
If she's carrying water around all the time, can we just say she's doing that? Restricting the multi-attack to water-only seems way too limiting to work mechanically, even if it's thematically optimal.
I'm good with this thinking...the +1 attack for being on water is justified in saying that she needed more water.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Old March 19th, 2018, 09:15 PM
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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Mera) (Vote for Initial)

Seems a little odd that she doesn't have the standard 'can move through water' language aqua types get. It won't matter super often when she has Flying, but it absolutely can come up. Otherwise no big concerns from me.


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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Mera) (Vote for Initial)

Same oddity goes back to Namor. Yeah, it's weird, and there's corner cases where it'll be a theme break.

Would definitely prefer the Water stuff to be a light touch here. Like I said, I wouldn't mind dropping it entirely and subbing in some other sort of Atlantean synergy.
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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Mera) (Vote for Initial)

Just a reminder that there's a vote up. If you're absolutely against a part of the design as-is, please state so. Otherwise, I'd hate to see the design fail to go to initials based on not receiving enough votes.
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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Mera) (Vote for Initial)

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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Mera) (Vote for Initial)

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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Mera) (Vote for Initial)

Sorry, I did say I was good with Ronin's logic but I didn't realize I never officially voted YEA

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Old March 21st, 2018, 05:29 PM
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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Mera) (Vote for Initial)

this passes on time
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Old March 21st, 2018, 05:35 PM
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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Mera) (Vote for Initial)

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NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Red Lantern (Mera)

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Army Test 1
Map: Custom
Units:
Red Lantern(Mera)(280), Star-Lord(250), Captain America(240), Angel(90) (860)
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Luke Cage(190), Iron Fist(260), Spider-Man(250), Swordsman(160) (860)
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Army Test 2
Map: Custom
Units:
Red Lantern(Mera)(280), Star-Lord(250), Captain America(240) (770)
vs.
Professor X(220), Beast(170), Wolverine(290), Angel(90) (770)
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Army Test 3
Map: Custom
Units:
Red Lantern(Mera)(280), Hydro-Man(190), Captain America(240), Oracle(110) (820)
vs.
Star-Lord(250), Angel(90), Gamora(310), Tigra(170) (820)
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY:
Mera definitely packs a punch be it in single attacks, or times where she can get into a cluster for multiple attacks. She did decent damage each game, and I really liked how she played. The resource management here felt like a nice give and take, with Depths of Rage and Raging Plasma offering some great fun. Overall, even though she lost 2 out of the 3 games, each game was pretty close, so I'm thinking a small point bump to 300 going into Public Testing feels about right. Depending on if she's coming in weak or strong we can adjust from there.

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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Mera) (Initial)

Initials posted.

I played her at 280, but I could see her ultimately coming in 290-310 depending on some more results. That said, I'm thinking 300 is fair going into Public Testing.
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Re: The Book of Red Lantern (Mera) (Initial)

I propose a vote to move to Public Playtesting at 300.
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