Marvel pieces in regular games

[whitetiger]

I was wondering how many people put Marvel characters into a regular heroscape game. It seems to me, that the Marvel characters are a quite a bit "beefier" than even most heroes. How does regular heroes stand up?

[LilNewbie]

We use Classic Heroscape (CHS) with Marvel Heroscape (MHS) all the time. The Marvel figs are powerful but they are all Medium and subject to most of the powers from CHS figures. We've found that they are pretty well balanced versus CHS figures overall and enjoy mixing the genres.

I've seen Silver Surfer run the board during one game and in the next game, taken out before attacking once. Map design becomes important when using mixed games because a good portion of MHS figures have flight and ranged attacks where few figures from CHS have that combination of powers. Be careful not to build areas where CHS figures cannot get to flying MHS figures and the MHS figures can attack without any threat from the enemy.

Newb.

[Kobu]

We allow it in our casual games. It adds more variety and they are a lot of fun to play with.

I also like the one Marvel figure tournament idea.

[Lord Pyre]

Yeah, Marvel figures are overpowered compared to CHS, but you can play however you want. We sometimes mix them for fun, but pretty rarely.

For the same points you can get

Charos
Move 5
Range 1
Attack 5
Defense 5

Flying
Counterstrike


Or....


Captain America
Move 5
Range 1
Attack 6
Defense 6

Counterstrike
Shield Throw
Tactician


The only thing Charos really has over Cap is that he's huge, and not subject to be a dino's toothpick.

[Cavalier]

Marvel figures aren't over powered, they are just more powerful. Their higher point cost balances out their prowess.

[Dualahorn]

Originally Posted by Lord Pyre

Yeah, Marvel figures are overpowered compared to CHS, but you can play however you want. We sometimes mix them for fun, but pretty rarely.

For the same points you can get

Charos
Move 5
Range 1
Attack 5
Defense 5

Flying
Counterstrike


Or....


Captain America
Move 5
Range 1
Attack 6
Defense 6

Counterstrike
Shield Throw
Tactician


The only thing Charos really has over Cap is that he's huge, and not subject to be a dino's toothpick.

Charos has 9 life, the captin has 5. big difference.

Originally Posted by Cavalier

Marvel figures aren't over powered, they are just more powerful. Their higher point cost balances out their prowess.

I was going to say that.
It seems like they are overpowered because they take less skill to play with.

[A_Train]

I don't even own a Marvelscape, and have no interest in it. If I did own it, I think I would keep it seperate from classic heroscape

[playa1]

Originally Posted by A_Train

I don't even own a Marvelscape, and have no interest in it. If I did own it, I think I would keep it seperate from classic heroscape

I felt exactly this way as well, until my youngest son wanted the game. Once I played MS, I found it really well balanced and a lot of fun. Mixing with HS isn't perfect. There are instances and combinations that get a little out of hand (i.e. frenzy and Thanos' "come back to life" ability), but generally someone who takes MS figs to a HS battle often is taking a big risk. Point for point, HS squads will overpower most MS figures -- especially when played well.

[GameBear]

Originally Posted by playa1

There are instances and combinations that get a little out of hand (i.e. frenzy and Thanos' "come back to life" ability)...

Certain combinations are frequently cited as justification for keeping Marvel separate. I wrote a lengthy post on the subject here, focusing on Thanos/Rats.

The strategy I mentioned there - attack Thanos' supporting units first - should prove even more successful against Thanos/Frenzy. Frenzy units are more expensive and easier to kill than Rats. Presumably Thanos will receive most of the order markers while alive, so killing the dormant support units first essentially negates both "Rejected by Death" and "Frenzy".

[whitetiger]

I have a very large point scale army, My son has the MHS so he could use his marvel pieces to add up some extra points then. Thank you for all the input.

[A_Train]

Going 2-2 isn't really any better (or worse) than going 2-2.
You just had more games, heh.

[wk4c]

Originally Posted by A_Train

Going 2-2 isn't really any better (or worse) than going 2-2.
You just had more games, heh.

Erm, no...if you won a game, then you played again. I think I made my point though, because as said, Charos handily beat Thanos in a 1v1 battle.