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Old April 3rd, 2020, 10:21 PM
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Re: The Book of KGBeast ~ Public Testing!

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM
NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: KGBEAST
Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: KGBeast (200), Merlyn (160), Hand Ninja x4 (340) (700) vs 5th Precinct Beat Cops (x4) (130), Commissioner Gordon (90), Batman (II) (250), Robin (Tim Drake) (120), Oracle (110) (700)
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Map: Custom
Units: KGBeast (200), Merlyn (160), Hand Ninja x4 (340) (700) vs Street Thugs (x4) (300), Penguin (II) (140), Hired Guns (130), Two-Face (I) (130)
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Re: The Book of KGBeast ~ Public Testing!

Awesome thanks! Does he feel pretty balanced so far? Looks like it. Fun and interesting to play?

I wish he could kill cops a bit more effectively, but no way to do that elegantly. At least it’s hard for them to protect his target, which was the goal
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Re: The Book of KGBeast ~ Public Testing!

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Re: The Book of KGBeast ~ Public Testing!

Yeah, I'd say he feels pretty balanced so far. Both his games really came down to how the Ninja matched up with other squads, though (Cops > Ninja and Ninja < Street Thugs outside of concrete/asphalt).

I'm not sure Street Thugs are really a good combination with Penguin (II) either. I think he probably prefers the Body Guards and more Crime Lords.

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Re: The Book of KGBeast ~ Public Testing!

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NAME OF THE TEST UNIT ( KGBeast )
Army Test 1
- Give a brief preview. KGBeast is Viper’s new Enforcer and they are looking to take over all crime in DC’s version of Madripoor. The Teen Titans show up to let this new power know who’s really in charge. Nightwing gets the (3), if KGBeast can survive that long then he won’t be able to roll any defense dice at all! As such Rhino & Whirlwind will lead the charge early and try to take out Starfire (1) and Changeling (2). Whirlwind is the only flier, so his job is to keep Starfire from trying to camp on a building. Raven might just win this one by kiting at the end once Whirlwind goes down, but we’ll see.
Map: X Marks the Spot
Units: KGBeast@200, Viper, Rhino, Whirlwind (790) vs. Nightwing, Raven, Starfire, Changeling (790)
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Recap: The criminals won initiative in every round but couldn’t pull out a victory. Changeling went down first, then Whirlwind in the next round, both costing their teams an OM. Viper goes down, she became a big target due to her poison power, but Nightwing whiffed on his only two def. rolls of the game and goes down right after that to keep things interesting. It seemed like the crooks had a chance once they climbed up the ladder, but Raven did what she does, and they missed their one chance at a victory.
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Everything seems okay here, realizing I should have picked Changeling for the (1) and Starfire for the (2) though. Might have made the difference later.
- What should be the unit's point value? 200 seems in the ballpark here, it was a pretty even match until the end when Raven makes it almost impossible for one team to win. Being able to negate the HG bonus on top of the negative defense modifier makes him a good choice for countering flying units, that don’t have MD and can send the W’s right back at you.
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- Give a brief preview. Kingpin assembles a team of assassins to bring down a new rival in town, Baron Zemo! Since Abomination has the most defense, he’ll get the (3), Zemo the (2), & Swordsman the (1). Lady Shiva makes Batman an Assassin.
Map: X Marks the Spot, Soup Kitchen Wars addition *Chili Glyph placed in each building*
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Units: KGBeast@200, Kingpin II, Bullseye, Lady Shiva, Batman (JPV) (1000) vs. Baron Zemo, Crossbones, Swordsman, Abomination, Green Arrow (1000)
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Recap: R1, lots of moving, Ollie att. Batman but is blocked. R2, Zemo moves up, Batman goes Psycho, Ollie att. him again, 2W! Bullseye hits Swordsman for 2W. Swordsman slices Bullseye for 2W, then misses! KGB takes down Swordsman. R3, Zemo X traps Bullseye. Abomination leaps next to Batman and hits him for 1W, tries to throw Batman but fails. Batman grapples up to the top of the building, uses his SA on Abomination, 2W! Abomination follows him up with another Super Leap, fails to hit him but this time throws him into the street adj. to Bullseye. KGB moves & att. Zemo, 4W! OM3 lost on Zemo. R3, Bullseye moves away from Psycho Batman, att. Crossbones, blocked. Crossbones engages and brutalizes Bullseye for 1W. Then Batman shows Crossbones what brutal really looks like with a 6 skull att. roll, Crossbones tries to use Bullseye as a human shield but fails, taking 3Ws. Ollie misses KGB. KGB shoots back and hits Ollie for 2W. Abomination drops down, att. Batman, blocked, so he throws him adj. to KGB. R4, KGB moves away from Psycho Batman, att. Abomination, 2W. Ollie runs across the street and engages KGB & Batman, att. Batman and takes him out. OM2 lost on Batman. Abomination att. Bullseye, blocked, throws him into street still engaged with Crossbones. KGB takes LEA from Ollie (miss), att. Abomination for another 2W. Abomination rushes KGB, att. from LG, 1W, fails to throw him. R5, KGB att. Abomination from HG, blocked! Abomination moves up to even ground, 2W, but again fails to throw him. KGB takes out Abomination. Crossbones att. Bullseye from HG, blocked. Lady Shiva moves up. Ollie moves over to the chili glyph, att. Bullseye from HG, blocked. R6, Bullseye moves up to even ground, att. Crossbones, blocked. Crossbones brutalizes Bullseye for 2W, he goes down. Ollie brings the chili out, stops to shoot an arrow at Lady Shiva in the street, 2W. Lady Shiva att. Crossbones with 6 dice, gets only 1 skull and is blocked. Ollie brings KGB a bowl of chili, but first he punches him in the face for 1W. Lady Shiva finally drops Crossbones. R7, KGB att. Ollie, blocked. Ollie att. KGB & takes him out. Shiva engages Ollie and takes him out to end things.
- Does it pass, Yes or No? This one renews my concerns a bit about the -3 def. one when combined with stat boosters, but I do feel it can be managed as a little better dice luck for Zemo’s crew and perhaps this one would have been closer. So I’ll say yes, but recommend a points bump.
- What should be the unit's point value? KGB dished out some damage in the last game, but in this one everything came together with him rolling all those skulls while attacking his targets in the right order and being boosted by KP or KP & his Cybernetics. It was pretty impressive the number of wounds he inflicted, then the 5 def./life combo holds up pretty well too. I think he’s better than Bronze Tiger at 210 and comparable to Punisher at 210 as well. So that would be my floor.
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Re: The Book of KGBeast ~ Public Testing!

I'd be fine with 210 for him. I'd need to be convinced for anything higher.

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Re: The Book of KGBeast ~ Public Testing!

Awesome thanks! He’s definitely a figure that will either over or under perform depending on how successful Nights of the Beast is. A lot of cases it’s difficult to pull off, but it’s there and really changes how you play the game, both you and your opponent. That said, I don’t mind going to 210, he’s still plenty good, especially in an assassin build. He’s still about on par with Batman I which was my goal.

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Re: The Book of KGBeast ~ Vote for Editing!

yea! Really dig how this guy turned out. Nice work, LP.

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Re: The Book of KGBeast ~ Vote for Editing!

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yea! Really dig how this guy turned out. Nice work, LP.
Yeah I really needed that fresh start on him! Way better than the original write up
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yea! Really dig how this guy turned out. Nice work, LP.
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