The Book of Emma Frost

[Yodaking]

It helps on a map like underground catacombs where LOS blockers are everywhere.

[Dysole]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

They'd still have to be within 4 spaces of Invisible Woman to get the bonus, though. You can be within clear sight without being within 4 clear sight spaces. So the utility of the power is only if there would be LOS blockers for units within those 4 spaces. Not a huge deal, IMO, but helpful.

Of course, that was assumed. I'm saying that if Balder blinds everyone, invisible woman's aura doesn't exist unless they're adjacent to her. Emma provides a way around that.

~Dysole, clearly

[TrollBrute]

Originally Posted by Yodaking

I looked at both powers and this is how I understand it.

TELEPATHIC LINK
While Emma Frost is in play all squad and hero figures you control are considered in clear sight of each other.

Emma connects all your own figures together to avoid clear sight restrictions. This allows them to work with one another even with LOS is blocked. She does not help you target opponents figures not in LOS at all. An example of that, as just suggested by laughing matter, is Cyclops Mutant Field Commander Power. Instead of moving a mutant he controls within 8 clear sight spaces, he can with Emmas help move any mutant he controls within 8 spaces, dropping the clear sight restriction.

MUTANT FIELD COMMANDER
After revealing an Order Marker on this card, instead of moving Cyclops, you may rearrange any unrevealed Order Markers on Army Cards you control that are in play and immediately move any other Mutant you control within 8 clear sight spaces of Cyclops up to 4 spaces.

Balder prevents you from using clear sight power 'against' a figure.

GOD OF LIGHT
Before taking a turn with Balder, you may reveal an “X” Order Marker on this card. For the rest of the round, other figures cannot use attacks or special powers that require clear sight against non-adjacent figures.

You only use powers against your opponents figure, not your own. Powers that target your own figures are powers used with that figure, not against it. In the Cyclops example, Cyclops is not working against the chosen mutant figure being moved up, they are working together as part of the same team and so Balder would not prevent it from happening.

That's a valid interpretation, YK. My only issue is that "against" doesn't have an official definition, as far as I know. Given the difference in wordings between God of Light and Doctor Light's similar power, I think you may be right. However, if any of the older Heroes know the intent here, it would be handy.

[IAmBatman]

I agree with YK's interpretation.

[Yodaking]

Emma's mini costume seems much more tasteful that her comic art costume, could we get a comic art card that matches the mini look? Not sure why the comic art needs to be more sexualized here, we usually try to match the comic and mini looks wherever we can.

[Lazy Orang]

Not really the biggest fan of this one, if I'm honest.
Also, please stop. I didn't realise you were so sore after I showed concern over Domino that a second strike would make you go unnecessary like this.

[Hahma]

This cuts both ways. If people are going to be bothered by cheeks or cleavage on female artwork, then there can't be any shirtless male art images either.

And then there's this guy with no shirt and has total groin focal point.

https://www.heroscapers.com/communit...ad.php?t=53618

Ultimately, it's up to the parent to print the version of the card they think is appropriate for their kids.

[Lazy Orang]

Still maintain they're contextually different. Rippling muscles on a man are often used as a symbol of power (see Conan), whereas revealing clothes on women are usually used for objectification.

[MrNobody]

Yeah I think it’s more complex than that. Theoretically, an image of a scantily clad man and an image of a scantily clad woman should be equal, but the way we’re psychologically trained through evolution and culture means that those 2 images often have different meanings.

[Lazy Orang]

Originally Posted by MrNobody

Yeah I think it’s more complex than that. Theoretically, an image of a scantily clad man and an image of a scantily clad woman should be equal, but the way we’re psychologically trained through evolution and culture means that those 2 images often have different meanings.

Exactly my point.

[Arkham]

To be fair, there's definitely a reason why people complained about:


But didn't complain about:




Spider-Man's powerful ass is so damn buff.

[Lazy Orang]

Thing is, though, I'm honestly not convinced the Spider-Man ones were designed to titilate or objectify so much as they're just genuinely bad art.
(Not that I'm blaming the artist of the Spider-Woman one, actually, though. I've heard my brother mention this before, and apparently the dude was an erotic artist - he was just doing the thing he gets paid for. I blame whatever idiot thought hiring an erotic artist for the job was a good idea.)