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Old March 17th, 2022, 08:11 PM
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Re: At WHAT point would consider personal collection complet

I purposely had left hatamoto out of my collection for a long time as a flawed knot.

Now I'm not sure if I could consider my collection complete without c3v and my personal custom s

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Re: At WHAT point would consider personal collection complet

Only one right answer: see 'Scape, buy 'Scape. There is no complete.

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Re: At WHAT point would consider personal collection complet

For the most part, I didn’t like the D&D sets. I sold my collection in 2013 to pay rent, and with the announcement of Age of Annihilation, have begun rebuilding it. I will consider it complete when I have 1 of each unique, 3 of each common (5x for swarm units like Zombies, Deathreavers, Marro Drones, etc) through to when WotC put their spin on it.
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Re: At WHAT point would consider personal collection complet

4 of each Master set/terrain expansion
4 of each common/uncommon unit
1 of each unique unit

I could make a case for two of each unique unit, so you can play mirror matches. I have a second copy of about half of them.

You could also set a point limit for the common squads. Say you want to be able to draft 400 points of any common squad. That would be 10 copies of Venoc Vipers, but only 3 copies of Einar Imperium.
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Old October 9th, 2022, 01:12 PM
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Re: At WHAT point would consider personal collection complet

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I would say one of every official unit except for squads that absolutely require extra squads based on the cards (i.e. Zombies ask for 2 squads and were originally sold that way, Marro Drones require 3...not really sure if there are others but there could be).
I know the thought is that you could in theory play Arkmar vs. Arkmar but that always seemed pretty strange to me . So I wouldn't really worry about having more than one of the unique squads/heroes.

That's my thoughts.

The rest of the time, use proxies. It can look silly at times having Blade Gruts and Heavy Gruts playing the roles of each other or using orcs from other games as fillers. We tend to play theme armies vs theme armies so Orc vs Soulborgs rarely gets to confusing, although I won't say that never happens.
The official figures are just way too expensive to even pretend to pick up these days. And that's even including the generous group on this site who insist on selling below retail (or maybe that's just my cheap nature coming out ). I'll never forget how good this group is to each other!

The only two, I still don't have a Woo or Skahen and most likely never will but I have proxies for them and they're just as good with the cards printed from this site so I'm happy with my 'complete' collection. Really As long as you have enough for a game the collection's complete. Happy scaping!
I have basically the same mentality regarding proxies, especially being someone who got into the game a few years after being discontinued. There are many similar looking enough units where I'm alright if I'm using Romans as gladiators, drudge and stingers as dividers and drones, honor guards as knights or warforged, Mimring as zelrig, Charos having a similar size and shape as Sujoah, AOTP elf archers as aubriens or samurai archers or Nottingham brigade, etc. It'd become unwieldy to keep track of if I have 5 of every common and etc.

I just bought some large/huge figures online that should fill my remaining gaps. One those come, I feel I have enough stuff to basically play for the most part any 500 point army in person imaginable with proxies that are pretty similar is size, look, and pose in regards to hit zones. Bramcephys and Mok are two basically equal sized muscular monsters with bladed hand weapons and metal armor/attachments on their shoulders. Maybe I can't field both at once, but I'm not buying a $40~ Mok when I only have one official Shieldsmiths and no axe grinders.

I have more than enough figures to use a random army generator with a randomly generated point amount between 400-600 points to be able to field four players worth of armies they don't have any repeated units within each other.

I have more than enough to have a variety of good times at in person tournaments. I'll accept the fun challenge of taking on people with legions of common bonding squads with just a few unique heroes with minimal synergy lol. I'll play the online tournaments if I want to play super competitively and have unlimited of everything to go full beast mode.

I've also decided recently to just use mini Christmas trees instead of getting ROTFF, using duct taped cups for rock Outcrops/glaciers and using swamp and swamp tiles with heavy snow and heavy ice rules. I feel those would be harder and slower to move in compared to snow anyway. Good enough for me. I can shape castle turrets into the same LOS shapes and heights of the glaciers.

Though I'll still totally see OG/C3V/SOV scape, buy OG/C3V/SOV scape if the price is right lol. I just feel like it's been drying up fast since the pandemic, especially after the AoA announcement. At this point, 3D printing is not worth it for me, unless I had to start collecting from total scratch again.

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Old October 9th, 2022, 02:19 PM
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Old October 9th, 2022, 03:14 PM
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Re: At WHAT point would consider personal collection complet

If money was not an issue? One of every unique and four of every common "per player" so completely open drafts can happen.

In reality? I already consider it complete, simply because buying vintage Heroscape has become far too expensive.
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I would say one of every official unit except for squads that absolutely require extra squads based on the cards (i.e. Zombies ask for 2 squads and were originally sold that way, Marro Drones require 3...not really sure if there are others but there could be).
I know the thought is that you could in theory play Arkmar vs. Arkmar but that always seemed pretty strange to me . So I wouldn't really worry about having more than one of the unique squads/heroes.

That's my thoughts.

The rest of the time, use proxies. It can look silly at times having Blade Gruts and Heavy Gruts playing the roles of each other or using orcs from other games as fillers. We tend to play theme armies vs theme armies so Orc vs Soulborgs rarely gets to confusing, although I won't say that never happens.
The official figures are just way too expensive to even pretend to pick up these days. And that's even including the generous group on this site who insist on selling below retail (or maybe that's just my cheap nature coming out ). I'll never forget how good this group is to each other!

The only two, I still don't have a Woo or Skahen and most likely never will but I have proxies for them and they're just as good with the cards printed from this site so I'm happy with my 'complete' collection. Really As long as you have enough for a game the collection's complete. Happy scaping!
I have basically the same mentality regarding proxies, especially being someone who got into the game a few years after being discontinued. There are many similar looking enough units where I'm alright if I'm using Romans as gladiators, drudge and stingers as dividers and drones, honor guards as knights or warforged, Mimring as zelrig, Charos having a similar size and shape as Sujoah, AOTP elf archers as aubriens or samurai archers or Nottingham brigade, etc. It'd become unwieldy to keep track of if I have 5 of every common and etc.

I just bought some large/huge figures online that should fill my remaining gaps. One those come, I feel I have enough stuff to basically play for the most part any 500 point army in person imaginable with proxies that are pretty similar is size, look, and pose in regards to hit zones. Bramcephys and Mok are two basically equal sized muscular monsters with bladed hand weapons and metal armor/attachments on their shoulders. Maybe I can't field both at once, but I'm not buying a $40~ Mok when I only have one official Shieldsmiths and no axe grinders.

I have more than enough figures to use a random army generator with a randomly generated point amount between 400-600 points to be able to field four players worth of armies they don't have any repeated units within each other.

I have more than enough to have a variety of good times at in person tournaments. I'll accept the fun challenge of taking on people with legions of common bonding squads with just a few unique heroes with minimal synergy lol. I'll play the online tournaments if I want to play super competitively and have unlimited of everything to go full beast mode.

I've also decided recently to just use mini Christmas trees instead of getting ROTFF, using duct taped cups for rock Outcrops/glaciers and using swamp and swamp tiles with heavy snow and heavy ice rules. I feel those would be harder and slower to move in compared to snow anyway. Good enough for me. I can shape castle turrets into the same LOS shapes and heights of the glaciers.

Though I'll still totally see OG/C3V/SOV scape, buy OG/C3V/SOV scape if the price is right lol. I just feel like it's been drying up fast since the pandemic, especially after the AoA announcement. At this point, 3D printing is not worth it for me, unless I had to start collecting from total scratch again.
You can buy some of the 3D printed models from someone on this site and paint them (or get them painted). That way you can pretend their all AoA figures

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Re: At WHAT point would consider personal collection complet

Oh, I backed a copy of AoA. Especially considering how big many of those minis are, it's a deal compared to buying 71 grey 3D printed copies of the OG units. I use loads of unpainted minis from other games I have. I already have a precedent of using unpainted minis so it's no issue for me personally.

I think the main problem is giving the two new generals that have the most presence the least visually appealing colors. The dark green, red, blue, Vydar grey/blue and purple are great. The einar yellow is a bit overly bright. I'd do a more metallic gold for that personally. I'd change the mountain dew green and Cheeto orange, I don't know to what other color. I'd have to think about it. Maybe olive/tree barkish brown mix instead of neon green and rusted bronze/burgundy mia instead of orange.

I'm not a painter. I painted some asphalt tiles into lava and excess non sparkle water into molten lava and shadows and that was enough for me lol.

Edit: actually, I don't mind the orange and yellow the more I look at them. I'd still change the neon green though.

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Re: At WHAT point would consider personal collection complet

Wait, why is Einar yellow? Shouldn't his units be purple with Aquilla having yellow?
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Wait, why is Einar yellow? Shouldn't his units be purple with Aquilla having yellow?
Einar is purple and Aquilla is yellow.

But yeah, the issue is the lime green for Volarak being so ugly and him having so many units. Plus, SuperFrog confirmed some of those are supposed to be Ullar units (forest Green) which is much nicer looking (see the Sonlen sculpt). So the pictures they're marketing with aren't even correct.

The new AoA stuff is awesome and an incredible value but this campaign is really mismanaged
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Re: At WHAT point would consider personal collection complet

For me a complete collection is a baseline of 2x of about 80% squads and 1x of about 80% of heroes, VC included. About 20% of the stuff in both classic & VC I just don't care about. And 2x of every terrain set.

I go beyond 2x for the following
- 3x for squads that are 65 points or less
- 4-6x for swarm units (zombies, drones, vipers)
- 3-7x for a few cheese armies (3x Heavies, 3x Cathar, 5x Knights, 7x spiders)

So it's basically 2x of commons and 1x of uniques with a little flexibility depending on what situations I want to play the unit in (a zombie horde scenario at home, or a 550 point tournament for example).

I'm also OK with proxying & 3D prints though, so achieving this point has been pretty doable thus far. I think I'm about 3/4 of the way there
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