Savage Throwdown 11/10 NHSD

[Dad_Scaper]

SAVAGE THROWDOWN

What: A Heroscape tournament, of course
When: November 10, arrive 12:30, start rolling dice 1:00, start to wrap up @ 6:00
How much: $5
Format: 435 points. 24 hexes. 5 rounds, Swiss System, see my House Rules for more info. SoV and C3V permitted. No Marvel, no C3G. No other restrictions. Bring it, play it.
Where: The Family Game Store in Savage, Maryland, located between Annapolis and Baltimore, right off I-95.

Check the link in my sig for house rules, which has a new bit about proxies because I want to encourage people to use proxies where they need to.

Maps:

Spoiler Alert!

Glyphs only where noted.


Trepidation by Dignan, RotV, TT x2


Entangled, by Dignan, RotV, FotA, TJ


Overgrown, by Dignan, SotM, TJ, FotA, with glyphs


Pocket Full of Posies by capsocrates, RotV, FotA


Gravel Garden, by GameBear BftU, FotA, TJ, RttFF, with glyphs


Blackroot, by Mad_Wookiee 1 SotM, RttFF x2


Umbra, by Mad_Wookiee BftU x2, VW


Hellsgate, by Mad_Wookiee RotV, FotA


Vorago, BftU, VW, FotA


Flooded Temple Revised 2, by Mmirg, RotV, FotA, RttFF with glyphs and special rule






Deep Jungle Battlefield, by AliasQTip

Attendees:

1. Dad_Scaper
2. KidScaper
3. Bill
4. Clancampbell
5. Xanth
6. Robber
7. Robber's Dad
8. Hivelord #4
9. Friend of KidScaper #1
10. AkDen
11. Gurei-Ornery
12. Legos of Bleakewoode
13. Boozehammer
14. hosj
15. Overengineered
16. Crxcowboy
17. Crichton
18. friend of GO
19. AliasQTip
20. Bassist of Doom
21. Twinkie
22. Friend of KidScaper 2 (arriving late)
23. Northgate
24. Twinkie's Friend
25. Mason

Maybe:

Maps:

1. Gravel Garden: DS
2. Blackroot: Robber
3. Robber Surprise: Robber
4. Overgrown: Overengineered (coincidence?)
5. Trepidation: akden
6. Entangled: akden
7. Pocket Full of Posies: Gurei-Ornery
8. Umbra: Gurei-Ornery
9. Flooded Temple: DS
10. Deep Jungle Battlefield: AliasQTip
11. Isthmus: Clancampbell
12. Peat Fire: Clancampbell
13. Blackroot: Northgate
14. One of the above: Bassist of Doom

[clancampbell]

It's still a ways off so I'm not sure of our availability. Things look ok for most of the month at this point. Allthough I'd probably steer clear of the 6th. (Xanth's b-day weekend) It's not a deal breaker for us though, Xanth would probably want to spend his birthday playing Heroscape!

As for the format, Multi-player would be cool. Perhaps a "Master of Formats" type deal. One army, 5 different formats. I went to one like that before, it was pretty cool.

EDIT: Melee only could be fun too. You see a bunch of different figures.

[akden]

I'm home and all fired up to play more Heroscape!

October 6 is my daughter's birthday, and the 21st is my wife's birthday, so I wouldn't be able to play on either of those week-ends. I could probably make it for the 13th or the 27th, given enough lead time.

[Dad_Scaper]

It's actually looking like we might have to push into the 1st or 2d weekend of November, now that I've spoken with the shop and reviewed my calendar.

I hate to wait this long...

[Gurei-Ornery]

The 20th or the 27th will be LoB's birthday weekend, so depending on who comes to town those might be tough but still achievable. I would love to see the 6th just because it is the soonest that meets your requirements. November would be fine also.

I like Clan's ideas for formats.

EDIT: I also like the formats that limit range with fog or darkness, by either cutting it in half or limiting to a flat X spaces of range due to visibility.

[Robber]

I believe Punkin Chunkin' is the last weekend of October or the first weekend in November, so the 13th would probably be the best option. (Looking on the calendar now) I'll ask the regulars: Camper, BoD, and their brothers.

Maybe teams instead of multiplayer, with 12 start zones a person and like 200-250 points apiece?

[Dad_Scaper]

I've thought about teams before. It would be perfect for you guys and for a few others. I'm worried, though, that some people (drewcula, johngee) might stay away because they normally come alone when they can make it.

Thoughts?

Also as much as I love melee - it's my favorite - I don't think I like what all-melee does to the metagame.

The PunkinChunkin website appears to be down/hacked at the moment, but I will avoid that weekend. We watch it in our house, too.

[clancampbell]

Originally Posted by Dad_Scaper

I've thought about teams before. It would be perfect for you guys and for a few others. I'm worried, though, that some people (drewcula, johngee) might stay away because they normally come alone when they can make it.

Thoughts?

I've also thought of team tournys before. The problem, as DS pointed out, is what to do if someone doesn't have a partner. If we get an odd number, then someone can't play at all, or we have to swap partners every round. Not only that, but say if 11 people come. Then not only is there an odd man out, but 3 people would have to sit out each round. It's a logistics nightmare. Even with a built in partner (Xanth), I'd still feel bad for others. That's why I've passed on team tournys in the past.

Originally Posted by Dad_Scaper

Also as much as I love melee - it's my favorite - I don't think I like what all-melee does to the metagame.

Makes knights better than they already are, makes Ashra playable, encourages new and different builds, de-values Q-9, 4th, 10th, Krav and rats. What's the downside?

[Robber]

Originally Posted by clancampbell

I've also thought of team tournys before. The problem, as DS pointed out, is what to do if someone doesn't have a partner. If we get an odd number, then someone can't play at all, or we have to swap partners every round. Not only that, but say if 11 people come. Then not only is there an odd man out, but 3 people would have to sit out each round. It's a logistics nightmare. Even with a built in partner (Xanth), I'd still feel bad for others. That's why I've passed on team tournys in the past.

Makes knights better than they already are, makes Ashra playable, encourages new and different builds, de-values Q-9, 4th, 10th, Krav and rats. What's the downside?

Yeah I'm all for bringing 7 squads of WoA again However, what's our definition of "Melee?" Would ranged special attacks be allowed? Could you bring a ranged unit and have their range reduced to 1? Would hydras be allowed in?

Other ideas include a General wars, or a 3-squad-only format like at my first tournament.

[MegaSilver]

Want we did for our Team Tournament (GenCon practice version) was that we announced our partners beforehand, ensuring that we had an even number of players. Yes, we did end up with an odd group out that had a bye each round, but at the very least we didn't have someone that didn't end up with a partner.

I also hosted a Team Tourney where we changed up our partners each round; strongest players paired with weakest. Very fun format that way.

[Dad_Scaper]

I'm thinking about multi player again. People like it, and it's family friendly, and keeping people coming is the most important thing. And we have a couple families in the Annapolis area.

General Wars, hmm...

[akden]

Originally Posted by Dad_Scaper

I'm thinking about multi player again. People like it, and it's family friendly, and keeping people coming is the most important thing. And we have a couple families in the Annapolis area.

General Wars, hmm...

General Wars would be fun, but do you offer awards to the best of each General, or do it the usual way? One issue I could foresee with General Wars is just tons of 4th Mass or all-stinger armies.

Have you ever done Heat of Battle as a format?

I also liked the multiplayer tournament and the "my time to shine" format from last year.

We're hoping to make this one.