Heroscape Dungeons and Dragons!?

[D-OOSH]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

I'm not necessarily talking about the actual components featured. I have no problems with a cover featuring sword wielding warriors and dragons, etc.
But there's clearly a whole different style of art present in these two examples. The first is more cartoony, iconic, and full of brighter and more primary colors. The second has a higher degree of realism, includes a lot more shadows and shading, has an overall "grittier" and more "mature" look to it. In RotV I see the monsters but they look kind of silly and clownish only, perhaps due to the dark colors. In the DnD set, that black dragon looks downright demonic. In the DnD set, the humanoid figures look a lot more like humans actually fighting for their lives. In the RotV set, we have little green army men who look like they could've been pulled from Toy Story. I guess if you read that and aren't seeing a clear aesthetic difference, I'm out of ways to describe it ...

I feel like your looking for things to point out that are bad about the new Master Set.

[Sherman Davies]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

In RotV I see the monsters but they look kind of silly and clownish only, perhaps due to the dark colors. In the DnD set, that black dragon looks downright demonic. In the DnD set, the humanoid figures look a lot more like humans actually fighting for their lives. In the RotV set, we have little green army men who look like they could've been pulled from Toy Story. I guess if you read that and aren't seeing a clear aesthetic difference, I'm out of ways to describe it ...

Hey, I painted the original RotV cover and those army men were supposed to look like they were in a desperate, life-or-death struggle with Mimring!

Seriously, I'll grant you that the Black Dragon looks pretty scary, but the three heroes who dominate the box look pretty bright colored to me, especially the priestess. I'll also point out that I've heard many members here say they were turned off of the original RotV set because of the scary looking Marro Warrior on the box, so my artistic skills weren't totally unappreciated.

[Bonecrusher]

Here is SOTM. And when I look at it IAB's way, the artwork does look different. Doesn't bother me one bit. Should it?

[badgermaniac]

Personally, I don't see the difference. The little dwarf guy looks just as cartoonish as the Marro.

I see these demonic eyes on the Marro that fit right in with the supposed darker theme.

The dragon isn't "silly and cartoonish" at all. The color palette is a bit lighter simply because he is breathing fire which is creating light.

Looking at the figures themselves (as you can't really see anything about the soldiers on the cover), the Airborne elite have a dark palette and are gritty and tough. In fact, some folks criticizing the new set have said that the D&D figures don't have the same gritty wash that they love in the HS figures.

Well, which is it? It can't be both.

I could go on but it doesn't do much good. I just think people have convinced themselves of something that just isn't there to be honest.

[D-OOSH]

Originally Posted by badgermaniac

I could go on but it doesn't do much good. I just think people have convinced themselves of something that just isn't there to be honest.

Agreed! +rep

[Oh Yeah! I'm Here]

Originally Posted by D-OOSH

Agreed!

I have to agree also!

[Oh Yeah! I'm Here]

Oh, I have something to throw onto the plate.

Hmm....Lets look around. I see...a marro! Oh, and a human! And look at that elf! I wonder where they came from? OH yes! They came from different planets!

This Master set will be no different than the others. If you think about it, these poor saps have been summoned from their planet to fight a war with you guys controlling them. I feel sorry for them already. This is no different than getting marro or vampires. They are from a world, summoned by weird guys with wings, to fight a war they didn't even start!

This shouldn't be seen as something bad, but a new expansion to the Scape list of possibilities. And even if you don't like it, give it a chance, don't do something crazy. And if you really don't like it, just don't buy it!

[quadraphonic]

Originally Posted by Oh Yeah! I'm Here

Oh, I have something to throw onto the plate.

Hmm....Lets look around. I see...a marro! Oh, and a human! And look at that elf! I wonder where they came from? OH yes! They came from different planets!

This Master set will be no different than the others. If you think about it, these poor saps have been summoned from their planet to fight a war with you guys controlling them. I feel sorry for them already. This is no different than getting marro or vampires. They are from a world, summoned by weird guys with wings, to fight a war they didn't even start!

This shouldn't be seen as something bad, but a new expansion to the Scape list of possibilities. And even if you don't like it, give it a chance, don't do something crazy. And if you really don't like it, just don't buy it!

It's not the character's source that's of concern, it's the sculpts themselves. Keep the characters but recast those sculpts with the HS look and feel, I'm 100% happy.

[badgermaniac]

One more quick thing..I don't get where folks are saying that HS is about this campy touchy feely innocence that is somehow being destroyed by this expansion. I mean seriously, look at almost every one of the Utgar figures. They are some bad-a$$ looking dudes. The new Braves and Dwarves are both serious-looking. We have characters getting torched by acid breath and zombies looking to feed on flesh. Agent Carr looks like one fierce SOB with his big sword ready to lay the hurt on anyone. Look at Q9. He is as dark looking as you can get.

Don't get me wrong, I think these things are great, but it isn't Teletubbies or Carebears taking a stroll through the dewey meadow. If it was, I don't think the game would work.

It is a battle with the fiercest warriors of all-time. Yes, the mechanics are simple (the appeal of the game), but to say that the D&D line does not fit in that just leaves me speechless.

I mean, if you don't like the dungeon setting or don't like elves or heroic swordsmen or magicians, that is fine, but I wonder if people are being colored by the myth regarding D&D being about devil worship in the sewers.

[GreyOwl]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

In the DnD set, that black dragon looks downright demonic.

I can see that, but I think the Marro on the box for RotV also looks pretty demonic.

[quadraphonic]

Originally Posted by badgermaniac

I mean, if you don't like the dungeon setting or don't like elves or heroic swordsmen or magicians, that is fine, but I wonder if people are being colored by the myth regarding D&D being about devil worship in the sewers.

Or rampant addiction as made famous in the televised cautionary tale Mazes and Monsters starring Tom Hanks!

[Sokol]

I can see Heroscape D&D leading to a lot of new, fun stuff down the road. I would love to see treasure chests, gravestones, pillars, dungeon walls, etc. Not to mention the introduction of a lot of new figures. The more I think about D&D Heroscape, the more excited I get about Heroscape's future. Here's looking forward to Wave 20!