Fantomex

[japes]

yea

[Yodaking]

yea

[Ronin]

Alright, that's a pass.

Thanks folks. I'll make time to run some initials this weekend.

[Soundwarp SG-1]

Originally Posted by Ericth74

I think a comparable unit is Ronin, same life and defense, move is similar, both can multi attack, both can leave engagement. So is Misdirection 14 and mental shield worth 80 points?

Important distinction is Fantomex has ranged double attack with normal attacks. Which means all those sweet sweet boosts.

Though he's still probably a bit over costed. He came out like right in the era of Enchantress being a problem IIRC.

[japes]

Originally Posted by Ronin

Alright, that's a pass.

Thanks folks. I'll make time to run some initials this weekend.

Does he need an initial or is it just Sanity testing?

[Ericth74]

Ninja 'd

[Ronin]

Planning to run a couple games and see how he feels, so whatever that counts as!

If people are hankering to move him forward I don't mind someone else jumping on it.

[japes]

Originally Posted by Ronin

Planning to run a couple games and see how he feels, so whatever that counts as!

If people are hankering to move him forward I don't mind someone else jumping on it.

It was more I saw “initial” and was wondering if we really needed a full run of initial and then sanctum testing. Just a terminology thing here.

[Ericth74]

I can run the Sanity testing here or initial if @Ronin hasn't started it?

[Ericth74]

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Fantomex

Version tested:

Spoiler Alert!

NAME = FANTOMEX
IDENTITY = CHARLIE CLUSTER-7

UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
SPECIES = MUTATE
CLASS = THIEF
PERSONALITY = DASHING

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 6

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 6
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS = 260

MISDIRECTION 14
When an enemy targets Fantomex for an attack, you may roll a d20. On a 14+, you may choose any figure other than the attacker within 3 spaces of Fanomex. Switch Fantomex with the chosen figure. The attacker must, if possible, target and attack the chosen figure.

DOUBLE ATTACK
Fantomex may attack twice per normal attack action.

FACTION = X-FORCE
PUBLISHER = Marvel
KEYWORDS = Weapon X
SYMBOLS = Mental Shield, Stealth

Army Test
Map: Turtle Training Dojo
Units: 1000 pts – Captain America 240, Iron Man 270, Fantomex 260, Black Widow 230 VS 1000 pts – Martinex 200, Gamora 300, Star-Lord 250, Charlie-27 250

Spoiler Alert!

Damage Dealt: R2T3 Star-Lord 2 wounds
R3T2 Martinex 1 wound
R4T1 Star-Lord 1 wound
R4T2 Martinex 1 wound


MISDIRECTION 14: Hit above average 3 out of 4 times rolled. Led to Star-Lord attacking Gamora doing 4 wounds and defeating her.

DOUBLE ATTACK: Used every time possible.

R1 - Movement. Star Lord attacks Black Widow who blocks it. Charlie uses his BFG SA and hits Cap for a wound. Iron Man hits Star-Lord for a wound. Cap uses his SA and hits Gamora and Charlie for 2 wounds each.
R2 – Cap misses all his targets with his SA. Gamora hits Cap for a wound. Charlie attacks Iron man 4 times doing just 2 wounds. Fantomex attacks down on Martinex twice, both are blocked. Black Widow attacks Martinex twice, both are blocked. Charlie Beats down Iron Man taking him out. OM3 moves to Fantomex. Star Lord attacks Famtomex, Fantomex hits his Misdirection roll and switches with Charlie, its blocked. Fantomex attacks Star-Lord twice doing 2 wounds. Black Widow hits Martinex for a wound.
R3 – Cap attacks Gamora, she blocks it. Charlie takes a swipe wound from Fantomex. Charlie attacks Cap and puts the final 3 wounds on him. Star-Lord targets Fantomex who Misdirects and changes place with Gamora. Star-Lord attacks Gamora doing 4 wounds and takes her out. Fantomex moves with Stealth to get away from Charlie and Star-Lord, he attacks down on Martinex twice doing a wound. Charlie attacks Fantomex who for the third time Misdirects and swaps with Star-Lord, Charlie attacks Star-Lord doing a wound. Star-Lord attacks down on Black Widow doing a wound. Black Widow attacks Star-Lord twice both are blocked. Charlie attacks up on Black Widow who blocks it.
R4 – Charlie attacks and kills Black Widow. OMs moved to Fantomex. Star-Lord attacks Fantomex(no target for Misdirection) and hits for 1 wound. Fantomex attacks Star-Lord twice doing 1 wound. Star-Lord takes a swipe wound from Fantomex. Charlie attacks Fantomex three times doing 4 wounds. Fantomex stealths away and attacks Marty twice doing 1 wound. Charlie attacks Fantomex with his BFG(Misdirect roll failed) doing 1 wound to end the game.

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Martinex 3 wounds/4 life left, Star-Lord 3 wounds/2 life left, Charlie-27 2 wounds/3 life left

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Army Test
Map: Turtle Training Dojo
Units: 800 pts – Captain America 240, Fantomex 260, Gamora 300 VS 800 pts - Baron Zemo 170, Rhino 220, Bullseye 170, Klaw 240

Spoiler Alert!

Damage Dealt: R1T3 Bullseye 3 wounds
R1T3 Bullseye 2 wounds – dead
R2T2 Zemo 3 wounds
R4T3 Rhino 1 wound – dead



MISDIRECTION 14: Missed his only roll

DOUBLE ATTACK: Put up some big attacks early with Cap and height bonus.

R1 – Movement. Bullseye attacks Cap, its blocked. Gamora attacks Bullseye, its blocked. Fantomex attacks down from range doing 5 wounds of 2 attacks taking Bullseye out.
R2 – Cap hits Zemo for 2 wounds and Klaw for 1. Rhino moves. Fantomex attacks Zemo doing 3 wounds. Rhino hits Cap for 2 wounds. Gamora attacks Zemo, its blocked. Cap puts a swipe wound on Rhino. Rhino attacks Fantomex(d20 missed), doing 5 wounds(blanked def roll).
R3 – Klaw hits Cap and Gamora for 1 wound. Cap get stuck in Zemo's glue. Klaw uses his SA again and does a wound to Gamora. Cap hits Rhino with his SA for 2 wounds. Rhino hits Cap for a wound. Gamora attacks Klaw who ignores it and heals a wound and Zemo who is defeated.
R4 – Klaw hits Gamora for 2 wounds. Cap hits Rhino for 3 wounds. Rhino attacks Cap its blocked. Gamora attacks Klaw who redirects it back at Gamora for a wound. Klaw hits Cap for a wound with his SA.
R5 – Klaw hits Gamora for 2 wounds taking her out. Cap hits Klaw for 1 wound. Klaw attacks Cap, its blocked. Cap attacks Klaw with his SA, Klaw redirects it at Fantomex which does a wound and takes him out. Cap hits Klaw for 3 wounds.
R6 – Cap attacks Klaw who heals a wound. Klaw hits Cap for a wound with his SA. Cap hits Klaw with a 6 skull attack and defeats him to end the game.

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Captain America 4 wounds/1 life left

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: I think we are good here. I questioned his cost at 260, but if you can hit a few Misdirection rolls it can be game changing, plus the increase in life from 4 to 6 is also must to stay at his points. I think he can move to final editing.

[Ronin]

Thanks Eric! If people think that's all we need here then I'm happy to move him forward. He'll presumably see a little more play as X-Force gets built out.

[IAmBatman]

Woof, he must've been really overcosted in 1.0. But that's supported by the calculator and how he was treated in the meta (largely ignored) so not shocking. Seems like the +2 life for the same cost holds up fine from those results.