The Book of Red Lantern (Atrocitus) (II)

[MrNobody]

Okay cool, I forgot we made that decision!

[Lord Pyre]

Awesome! Yea

[Ronin]

Hell yea

[Arkham]

This passes

[japes]

post YEA...just because.

[Arch-vile]

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Rojo Lantern (Atrocitus) (Dos)

Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Red Lanterns: Atrocitus II, Mera, Bleez, Dex-Starr (1300) VS Captain America C3G, Iron Man Hulkbuster, War Machine, Doctor Strange, Wong, Ant-Man Hank Pym (1300)

Spoiler Alert!

Cap moves out. Mera & Dex move out. War Machine wounds Mera. Bleez steals a marker from Atrocitus and engages War Machine (taking a wound). Dex also engages War Machine from low ground. Bleez wounds War Machine. Wong & Doctor Strange move up, and Strange puts 2 wounds on Bleez. Atrocitus engages War Machine (taking 3 wounds from auto chain gun), whiffs against War Machine, but inflicts a wound thanks to Bleez.

Atrocitus kills War Machine, and uses Ravager Motivator to remove his last battery to activate 2 Red Lanterns: Bleez wounds Cap, Dex-Starr wounds Strange twice - but Wong takes the wounds instead, thus avoiding the additional wounds from Cat Scratch Fever. Cap wounds Atrocitus, who takes the wound to power up. Atrocitus puts 2 wounds on Cap, then uses Ravager Motivator to remove his last battery to activate a Red Lantern: Mera gets 4 attacks, killing Wong, wounding Cap, wounding Strange, and wounding Bleez. Mera then takes a wound herself. Strange wounds Dex. Mera fails, and loses a battery. Hulkbuster puts 3 wounds on Mera and takes one in return from Raging Plasma.

Atrocitus kills Captain America, then uses Ravager Motivator to remove his last battery to activate 2 Red Lanterns: Bleez takes a wound from Hulkbuster, Dex puts 3 wounds on Hulkbuster. Hulkbuster kills Bleez. Atrocitus wounds Strange, then uses Ravager Motivator to activate a Red Lantern: Dex is blocked. Hulkbuster kills Mera. Atrocitus wounds Strange, then Dex fails. Strange wounds Dex, powering him up.

Atrocitus disengages Strange, taking a wound, then wounds Hulkbuster. Dex finishes Hulkbuster off. Lost OM1 & OM2, making this the turning point of the game. Despite that advantage, with two turns Atrocitus only manages one more wound on Strange. Strange wounds Dex.

Strange kills Dex. Atrocitus fails. Strange kills Atrocitus.


Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Doctor Strange (4 wounds) and unused Ant-Man win.

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Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Atrocitus II, Supergirl, Rankorr, Dex-Starr (1300) VS Green Lanterns: Guy, John, Kyle, Blue Lantern Warth, Green Construct Shield x4 (1300)

Spoiler Alert!

Rankorr advances. John puts 4 wounds on Rankorr, angering the heck out of him. Atrocitus attacks John, but takes a wound from Green Shield Strike. Guy kills Rankorr then takes a wound to wound Dex. Atrocitus wounds John, then has Supergirl attack Guy, who blocks with a battery marker. Warth moves up and burns a battery to restore the batteries of John & Guy.

Atrocitus takes a LEA from John to engage Warth, but Warth blocks. Guy puts 4 wounds on Atrocitus, so Atrocitus shuffles 2 over to Dex. Guy then takes a wound to kill Dex-Starr. Atrocitus puts 2 wounds on Warth, then has Supergirl burn one of John’s batteries. John wounds Supergirl. Atrocitus kills Warth, then has Supergirl attack John. John decides to roll defense (+2 from a GC Shield) against 4 skulls, and of course he whiffs because this is Heroscape where everything is made up and the odds don’t matter. Kyle makes up for it on his turn by rolling 4 skulls against Atrocitus, who whiffs on defense and dies with no adjacent Red Lantern to shift wounds off to. Lost OM3.

Kyle is blocked. Supergirl burns a battery. It’s a lantern slugfest for a while so I won’t bother to type it all out. Eventually the Green Lanterns are victorious.


Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Guy (3 batteries, 3 wounds), Kyle (0 batteries, 0 wounds), and 2 Green Construct Shields win.

THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: This is such a fun faction. The Red Lanterns are a brutal army early on, when battery markers are plentiful and their attack power is terrifying. But they can burn out quickly, losing steam and momentum if you are too aggressive. Atrocitus II is an effective leader and was a lot of fun to play. Shunting wounds away from Atrocitus and where battery markers are needed is super useful, and obviously Ravager bonding is great but balanced by the requirement to inflict a wound.

While the Red Lanterns lost both my games, I feel like I misplayed them slightly in game 1. Bleez stealing one of Atrocitus’s markers provided some early wounds but nerfed Atrocitus’s attack for the remainder of the game. Despite that blunder they did very well, only losing to Strange in the end. In game 2, the Green Lanterns provided a natural counter to the reds with their ability to ignore attacks. I figured the high attack of the Red Lanterns would be able to overcome this, but with lanterns games are decided by momentum, and the Greens had the early momentum. Killing Rankorr so early robbed the Reds of their guaranteed autowounds - Supergirl’s autowounds could be effectively ignored with a battery shield. So while the reds lost game 2, I felt Atrocitus still performed up to par.

[IAmBatman]

That second battle sounds epic! Glad to see this moving along.

[Arkham]

Greatly appreciated! Thanks for the tests!

Glad you enjoyed them. I definitely think they’ve come together quite well. Your 2 close losses are making me feel even more confident we’re in a good place.

[Arkham]

Fret's games.

Originally Posted by fret_gurglo

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Atrocitus @400

Army Test
Map: Martian Warzone
Units: Atrocitus (400), Dex-Starr (250), Kara (370), Rankorr (280) (1300) vs Human Torch (225), Invisible Woman (215), Mister Fantastic (235), She-Hulk (310), The Thing (325) (1310)

Powers Used:
Blood of Ysmault(recover red Battery): 1
Ravager Motivator(Ravager take a turn): 0
Ravager Motivator(2 Ravagers take a turn): 1
Blood and Rage: 0

Damage from normal attacks: 4

Spoiler Alert!

Round 1: Figures advance.
Round 2: Rankorr hits She-Hulk for 1 wound. Human Torch strikes back to Rankorr for 1 wound.
Round 3: She-Hulk heals 1 wound. Atrocitus hits Invisible Woman for 4 wounds. He then commands Rankorr to attack Torch for 2 wounds and Dex-starr for 1 more wound. Human Torch destroys Rankorr. She-Hulk punches Atrocitus for 4 wounds and Mr. Fantastic hits him again for another 2. Atrocitus recovers 1 battery. Dex-starr attacks Mr. Fantastic for 2+1 wounds. Last turn Invisible Woman destroys Atrocitus.
Round 4: Kara attacks Mr. Fantastic for 1 wound and she takes 1 wound. She-Hulk hits Kara for 1 wound. Mr. Fantastic also hits Kara for 1 wound. Kara destroys Mr. Fantastic. Dex-starr destroys Invisible Woman.
Round 5: Kara destroys Human Torch. She-Hulk destroys Kara.
Round 6: She-Hulk destroys Dex-starr.



Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Fantastic Five. Thing had 6/6 Life remaining (and did nothing the whole game). She-Hulk 6/6 Life.

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Army Test
Map: Martian Warzone
Units: Atrocitus (400), Dex-Starr (250), Kara (370), Rankorr (280) (1300) vs Human Torch (225), Invisible Woman (215), Mister Fantastic (235), She-Hulk (310), The Thing (325) (1310)

Powers Used:
Blood of Ysmault(recover red Battery): 0
Ravager Motivator(Ravager take a turn): 2
Ravager Motivator(2 Ravagers take a turn): 0
Blood and Rage: 4

Damage from normal attacks: 7

Spoiler Alert!

Round 1: Human Torch gets first blood on Atrocitus for 1 wound.
Round 2: Atrocitus hits Mr. Fantastic for 3 wounds, which allowed Kara to hit him again for 1 wound. Super-girl attacks She-Hulk for 1 wound.
Round 3: She-Hulk heals 1 wound. Thing attacks Rankorr for 4 wounds. Human Torch destroys Rankorr. She-Hulk attacks Atrocitus for 2 wounds, but 1 is transferred to Kara. Next turn, She-Hulk attacks again for 3 more wounds, only 1 is transferred to Kara.
Round 4: Thing destroys Dex-starr. She-Hulk hits Atrocitus for 2 wounds (both go to Kara). Thing attacks Atrocitus for 2 wounds. Next turn, Thing hits Atrocitus for 2 more wounds (both go to Kara). Atrocitus hits Thing for 4 wounds and Kara destroys the Thing. She-Hulk destroys Atrocitus. Kara risks leaving engagement and is destroyed.



Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Fantastic Five. Mr. Fantastic 1/5 Life. Human Torch 5/5 Life. Invisible Woman 5/5 Life. She-Hulk 6/6 Life.

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Army Test
Map: Martian Warzone
Units: Atrocitus (400), Dex-Starr (250), Kara (370) (1020) vs Angel (90), Beast (170), Cyclops (190), Emma Frost (170), Jean Grey (180), Professor X (220) (1020)

Powers Used:
Blood of Ysmault(recover red Battery): 0
Ravager Motivator(Ravager take a turn): 3
Ravager Motivator(2 Ravagers take a turn): 0
Blood and Rage: 1

Damage from normal attacks: 12

Spoiler Alert!

Round 1: Cyclops gets a long range attack on Atrocitus for 1 wound. Atrocitus uses his quick speed to get up to Cyclops and attack him for 3 wounds and then command Dex-starr to attack and destroy Cyclops. Jean Grey tosses Atrocitus for 1 wound. She then attacks Dex-starr for 2 wounds.
Round 2: Jean Grey grips Atrocitus and he cannot move. With no range attacks, his turn ends. Jean Grey then tosses Atrocitus into lava for 1 wound and turns and destroys Dex-starr. Kara destroys Jean Grey in a single punch. Beast leaps and attacks Kara for 1 wound. Atrocitus hits Emma Frost for 4 wounds, which allows Kara to attack Angel and destroy him in a single hit. Emma Frost attacks Atrocitus for 1 wound.
Round 3: Atrocitus attacks Emma Frost and rolls 5 skulls, but Professor X stops the attack. Emma Frost attacks Atrocitus for 1 wound. Atrocitus destroys Emma Frost and Kara attacks Beast for 1 wound. Beast attacks Atrocitus for 2 wounds, which he transfers to Kara. Atrocitus destroys Beast and Kara one-hits Professor X (that’s the 3rd time this game she destroys a figure at full health in one hit)




Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Ravagers win. Atrocitus 2/7 Life. Kara Zor-El 4/7 Life.

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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Seems fairly close to the right amount. Maybe a little high in cost or needs a slight boost, I would recommend the latter. As written I would evaluate him around 370-380.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: Excellent design and a fun faction. They come out swinging strong, but burn out fast. As a suggestion, maybe for the Ravager Motivator power allow the additional turns to add +1 to their Attack number..

[MrNobody]

I should have mine in by the end of the weekend.

[MrNobody]

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Atrocitus II

Army Test
Map: Dark Dimension
Units: Team 1 (1,000): Atrocitus (400), Bleez (350), Dex-Starr (250)
Team 2 (990): Cosmic Boy (260), Lightning Lad (180), Saturn Girl (220), Superboy (330)

Spoiler Alert!

Round 1: T2 wins initiative
-Saturn Girl gives herself a wound to give Dex a wound
-Cos tosses Atrocitus, inflicting a wound

Round 2: T2 wins initiative
-Atrocitus takes an LEA from Superboy while trying to engage Cos
-Cos tosses Atrocitus again
-Atrocitus takes another LEA from Superboy, once again running over to Cos
-Cos tosses Atrocitus again
-Saturn Girl gives both herself and Atrocitus a wound
-Superboy finishes off Atrocitus

Round 3: T1 wins initiative
-Superboy hits Bleez, inflicting a wound
-Garth uses Charged Lightning to inflict 2 wounds on Bleez
-Bleez steals a Battery Marker from Dex
-Cos tosses Bleez
-Cos tosses Dex
-Saturn Girl inflicts a wound on both herself and Dex
-Clark finishes off Bleez
-Clark takes a wound from standing on the lava field

Round 4: T1 wins initiative
-Cos tosses Dex, killing him


Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Cosmic Boy (0/4 wounds), Lightning Lad (0/4 wounds), Saturn Girl (3/4 wounds), Superboy (1/6 wounds)

Note: For the sake of balance, I decided that Cosmic Boy couldn’t throw people into molten lava.

Not going to lie, this was a really frustrating un-fun game. The Reds just kept charging at Cosmic Boy, but Cos was rolling so well there really wasn’t a way to get through to him. Even the few times his roll failed, Saturn Girl was there debuffing their attack, making sure the Reds still couldn’t get through. Ultimately just feels like I didn’t get much meaningful data here, other than what I already knew. (RLs are very berserker-esque high attack/low defense characters in general.)

Cosmic Boy, on top of the really lucky rolls, was good at displacing the Reds enough that they couldn’t use a lot of their adjacency-based abilities.

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Army Test
Map: Dark Dimension
Units: Team 1 (1,280): Atrocitus (400), Bleez (350), Rankorr (280), Dex-Starr (250)
Team 2 (1,280): Nightwing (200), Starfire (210), Raven (190), Arsenal (190), Wonder Girl (Cassie) (240), Wonder Girl (Donna) (140), Kid Flash (110)

Spoiler Alert!

Round 1: T1 wins initiative
-Arsenal climbs to a good spot and fires an arrow off at Atrocitus
-Atrocitus charges across the battlefield with Dex-Starr in tow and kills Arsenal in a single hit
-The Bolas go flying towards the other Red Lanterns
-Atrocitus spends a marker to motivate Rankorr and Bleez
-Rankorr picks up the Bolas
-Cassie yanks Atrocitus from height down to the shadows using her whip, inflicting 1 wound in the process
-Kori gives Atrocitus a wound, causing him to recharge his rage

Round 2: T2 wins initiative
-Kori gives Atrocitus 2 wounds
-Atrocitus slams into Kori, inflicting 4 wounds
-Rankorr inflicts a wound on Cassie, then removes a marker to inflict another wound on her
-Donna yanks Atrocitus off of height again, but fails to inflict any wounds on him
-Atrocitus kills Kori
-Atrocitus spends a marker to motivate Rankorr and Dex-Starr
-Dex scratches Dick, inflicting 2 wounds
-Rankorr throws some Bolas onto Nightwing
-Cassie counterstrikes Rankorr, which gets him fired up but also makes him drop the bolas
-Atrocitus crushes Dick, finishing him off
-Atrocitus spends a marker to motivate Rankorr and Bleez
Rankorr finishes off Cassie

Round 3: T1 wins initiative
-Atrocitus picks up the Bolas
-Atrocitus gives Donna a wound
-Bleez steals a marker from Rankorr
-Bleez inflicts a wound on Raven
-Atrocitus kills Donna
-Bleez slashes at Raven, inflicting a wound
-Kid Flash gives Dex a wound
-Rankorr gives Raven a wound then burns a marker to give her another wound
-Raven moves a wound from herself to Atrocitus, causing him to drop the Bolas
-Raven, Rankorr, and Bleez take lava field damage

Round 4: T2 wins initiative
-Raven moves a wound from herself to Atrocitus, but Atrocitus then moves that wound to Dex, recharging the cat’s rage
-Atrocitus gives Raven a wound
-Bleez kills Raven
-Kid Flash tries to give Atrocitus 2 wounds, but Atrocitus transfers those wounds to Bleez
-Atrocitus destroys Wally, taking him out in a single hit


Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Atrocitus (5/7 wounds, 0 Battery Markers), Bleez (3/6 wounds, 3 Battery Markers), Rankorr (2/5 wounds, 0 Battery Markers), Dex-Starr (2/4 wounds, 1 Battery Marker)

This battle may seem like a little bit of a landslide victory for the Reds, but I think they were running out of juice there towards the end. They’re definitely a candle that burns hard and fast, and I think if the Titans could’ve lasted just a bit longer they’d have had a much better chance.

Atrocitus got a few lucky big hits in, but I think that’s to expected when putting a high-level hero up against mid-to-low-level ones. Still, no doubt that stuff like killing Arsenal in one hit affected the overall flow of the game, as it allowed the Reds to get their momentum really going.

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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: 1 huge loss and 1 fairly big win. I think he’s always going to have an advantage against weaker figures, but not too much that can be done about that. I feel like he’s probably about good at 400. They still feel very much like a short-term berserker offensive, which is perfect. It does mean he feels a bit fragile at time, being a 400 point faction centerpiece. But Blood And Rage allows him to elongate his own survivability pretty handily if you use it right. (And aren’t getting tossed around by Cosmic Boy!)

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: Feels spot on! I like how this design captured a bit more of the scheming aspect of his character than the first version did. Being a Machiavellian jerk and throwing your allies under the bus felt really strategic, especially when you could get Battery Markers out of it. It prevented the enemy from doing the usual tactic of just focusing on one unit until they’re down then moving on to the next.

[Arkham]

Thank you sir!

With an overall of 3-7, can't say there's any concerns other than him maybe being a hair over costed. However, for army building options, I like him at 400, and with more planned Reds down the road that might make his Motivator activate a little easier, I'm ok with him eating perhaps 20 points here. Everyone seems pretty happy with how he and the faction play, so that's the main win.

I propose a vote to move to Final Editing.

Can I get a wording check please and thanks?