The Top 11 Most Frequently Overlooked (yet [ab]used) Rules

[WAIT-THEN-FIRE]

Nicely put.

[Jexik]

Should I add something about Extreme Height advantage? It's a rule that many people don't apply properly. I always used the base of each figure to determine it until I was corrected on this site.

The only reason I wouldn't bring it up is because it's rather uncommon in tournaments and most of the games I play.

[Poseidon's trident]

Originally Posted by Jexik

Should I add something about Extreme Height advantage? It's a rule that many people don't apply properly. I always used the base of each figure to determine it until I was corrected on this site.

The only reason I wouldn't bring it up is because it's rather uncommon in tournaments and most of the games I play.

I think it is too uncommon to include that but most people use it wrong when they are playing and that is what this thread is about so it wouldn't hurt.

[Mr Migraine]

Originally Posted by Poseidon's trident

I think it is too uncommon to include that but most people use it wrong when they are playing and that is what this thread is about so it wouldn't hurt.

It may not be one of the "12 most overlooked rules," but it is often overlooked.

Use your own discretion.

[fomox]

Originally Posted by Jexik

Should I add something about Extreme Height advantage? It's a rule that many people don't apply properly. I always used the base of each figure to determine it until I was corrected on this site.

The only reason I wouldn't bring it up is because it's rather uncommon in tournaments and most of the games I play.

You could add a link to another post with "More easy to overlook rules".

But yes, many play this wrong, and it does come up occasionally. (Almost any map with climbable castle walls.) And with the advent of a ranged flying squad, this could be coming up more often.

[Oliver Upshaw]

Originally Posted by Jexik

Should I add something about Extreme Height advantage? It's a rule that many people don't apply properly. I always used the base of each figure to determine it until I was corrected on this site.

The only reason I wouldn't bring it up is because it's rather uncommon in tournaments and most of the games I play.

Could you give me an example of what you are talking about?

[Cavalier]

Originally Posted by Oliver Upshaw

Could you give me an example of what you are talking about?

Extreme Height Advantage (From page 12 of the SoTM rulebook):
If the base of the higher figure is 10 or more higher than the height of the lower figure, the higher figure would receive 2 additional dice, not just one.

For illustrative purposes:

[demon_llama]

Originally Posted by Cavalier

Extreme Height Advantage (From page 12 of the SoTM rulebook):
If the base of the higher figure is 10 or more higher than the height of the lower figure, the higher figure would receive 2 additional dice, not just one.

For illustrative purposes:

Please forgive me Cavalier, but I may be misreading this rule then.
SOTM, pg 12;

"Height Advantage: If the base of one figure is higher than the base of the other figure (no matter what their actual size or height), the higher figure has height advantage, and rolls one extra die for either attack or defense. If the base of the higher figure is 10 or more..."

The way I understood that was that you always use the base of the respected figures when determining any height advantage, but your example takes figure size into account, which the first sentence discounts.

Can someone please clarify?

[IAmBatman]

I'm pretty sure it's bases for regular height advantage and then a base height/figure height comparison for anything above that.

[killercactus]

Originally Posted by demon_llama

Please forgive me Cavalier, but I may be misreading this rule then.
SOTM, pg 12;

"Height Advantage: If the base of one figure is higher than the base of the other figure (no matter what their actual size or height), the higher figure has height advantage, and rolls one extra die for either attack or defense. If the base of the higher figure is 10 or more..."

The way I understood that was that you always use the base of the respected figures when determining any height advantage, but your example takes figure size into account, which the first sentence discounts.

Can someone please clarify?

IAmBatman is correct with his response.

There are two different types of height advantage - Height Advantage (defined by you above), and Extreme Height Advantage. They are not the same thing.

Extreme Height advantage allows 2 extra dice to be rolled by the attacker (or defender, if he is the higher one). This happens when the base of the higher figure is more than 10 levels higher than the height of the lower figure (as illustrated in Cav's example).

In my experience, Extreme Height Advantage has only been encountered in Castle games, and I've never run into it in a tournament.

[1Mmirg]

If you read the whole line together it clearly compares bases for height advantage and then base to height for extreme height advantage. (It is a significant rule; without it the castle set become much less usable--with it, you can have castles on a map without giving too much bonus to units like the AE.)

Height Advantage: If the base of one figure is higher than the base of the other figure (no matter what their actual size or height), the higher figure has height advantage, and rolls one extra die for either attack or defense. If the base of the higher figure is 10 or more higher than the height of the lower figure, the higher figure would receive 2 additional dice, not just one.

EDIT: Ninja of the Midwest Plains, killercactus, struck first...

[killercactus]

Originally Posted by 1Mmirg

EDIT: Ninja of the Midwest Plains, killercactus, struck first...

Ninja of the Midwest Plains - I quite like that.