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Can anyone point me to an answer from the design team on pre-releasing the cards? Will we have to wait to see if the HasLab is funded first?
They're not going to give us cards that are still in playtesting. Whether or not any of the cards will move past that stage during the Haslab remains to be seen.
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Can anyone point me to an answer from the design team on pre-releasing the cards? Will we have to wait to see if the HasLab is funded first?
They're not going to give us cards that are still in playtesting. Whether or not any of the cards will move past that stage during the Haslab remains to be seen.
Has it been confirmed that *none* of the cards are currently finalized?

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They're not going to give us cards that are still in playtesting. Whether or not any of the cards will move past that stage during the Haslab remains to be seen.
Has it been confirmed that *none* of the cards are currently finalized?
Technically, no it has not, but it's implied.
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Encarmine the card picture I’m assuming is the basic side of card and the opposite side will have abilities etc.
Correct, we’re not going to share any powers until the War Council has finished playtesting.
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Re: Heroscape 2nd Edition is here!

they have been talking about doing some gameplay demos though so they may be preparing to backtrack on that one a bit

for the best considering we still have a lot of backers to go

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Can anyone point me to an answer from the design team on pre-releasing the cards? Will we have to wait to see if the HasLab is funded first?
Anitar posted in the News thread that CVN said they'll be releasing some cards soon.

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Re: Heroscape 2nd Edition is here!

So I wrote some comparison analysis of the "it's not worth $250" arguments and thought I would repost it here:

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So there's two sides of the cost discussion. One side is "costs too much *for me*" which is a subjective thing I won't argue with. The other side is "costs more than it is worth" which is a bit more of an objectively verifiable statement and, I think, quite false.

Rise of the Valkyrie gave us 16 army cards for 30 figures as well as a boatload of terrain for an MSRP of $40 in 2004. The $$-per-ounce-of-plastic increased with each subsequent master set.

The terrain for this set is comparable to Rise of the Valkyrie + a Ticalla Jungle (which retailed for $20 when it came out in 2008 ) + Fortress of the Archkyrie (which retailed for $30 when it came out in 2006), so that gets us to $90, 16 cards, and 30 figures. So let's get the rest of the way to 71 unique figures...

we'll have to add
- Heroes of Bleakwoode for $13 + 5 figures
- Heroes of Barrenspur for $13 + 4 figures (1 large + 1 Huge)
- Orm's Return for $20 + 5 large figures (mix of large and huge)
- Heroes of Nostralund for $13 + 5 figures
- Heroes of Trollsford for $13 + 5 figures
- Gladiators and Agents for $13 + 6 figures
- Ninjas and Samurai for $13 + 6 figures
- Heroes of Durgeth for $13 + 5 figures

so that gets us to $214 for comparable terrain and 71 unique figures... in 2004-2006. $214 -> $250 is a 16% increase in cost. I'm not aware of anything that has had a cost increase as small as 16% since 2006. Have you looked at gas prices lately? Do you remember what they were in 2006? The price of plastic has gone way up since then (as has the price of labor, which is why these are unpainted).

Finally, shipping (a $40 value?) is free.

A related point is that this is also on the normal spectrum of prices for unpainted mini games of this size on kickstarter; a few go for less, many go for the same or more. And they usually don't have free shipping.

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So I wrote some comparison analysis of the "it's not worth $250" arguments and thought I would repost it here:

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So there's two sides of the cost discussion. One side is "costs too much *for me*" which is a subjective thing I won't argue with. The other side is "costs more than it is worth" which is a bit more of an objectively verifiable statement and, I think, quite false.

Rise of the Valkyrie gave us 16 army cards for 30 figures as well as a boatload of terrain for an MSRP of $40 in 2004. The $$-per-ounce-of-plastic increased with each subsequent master set.

The terrain for this set is comparable to Rise of the Valkyrie + a Ticalla Jungle (which retailed for $20 when it came out in 2008 ) + Fortress of the Archkyrie (which retailed for $30 when it came out in 2006), so that gets us to $90, 16 cards, and 30 figures. So let's get the rest of the way to 71 unique figures...

we'll have to add
- Heroes of Bleakwoode for $13 + 5 figures
- Heroes of Barrenspur for $13 + 4 figures (1 large + 1 Huge)
- Orm's Return for $20 + 5 large figures (mix of large and huge)
- Heroes of Nostralund for $13 + 5 figures
- Heroes of Trollsford for $13 + 5 figures
- Gladiators and Agents for $13 + 6 figures
- Ninjas and Samurai for $13 + 6 figures
- Heroes of Durgeth for $13 + 5 figures

so that gets us to $214 for comparable terrain and 71 unique figures... in 2004-2006. $214 -> $250 is a 16% increase in cost. I'm not aware of anything that has had a cost increase as small as 16% since 2006. Have you looked at gas prices lately? Do you remember what they were in 2006? The price of plastic has gone way up since then (as has the price of labor, which is why these are unpainted).

Finally, shipping (a $40 value?) is free.

A related point is that this is also on the normal spectrum of prices for unpainted mini games of this size on kickstarter; a few go for less, many go for the same or more. And they usually don't have free shipping.
I agree on the value, you even left out the Spiders.

I was thinking :
Rotv - $45
Fota - $25 (We don't get wall walks and ladders though)
TJ - $20
Large Hero set - $20
1 Full wave of figures - $52
Shipping - $25
= $187

But I think you had more figures, I may be a few boosters short of 71 figures. You were also more accurate including all unique figure packs.

It is a good value for what is included, I don't think that's a problem.

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Re: Heroscape 2nd Edition is here!

I was wondering when someone would post this sort of comparison, and I'm zero percent surprised it was caps.

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