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SuperHeroScape™: SHIELD and Skrulls 10/8

The latest (both Squads of 3):




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Yes, I already have a superhero customs thread. If you want to see what my designs looked like 9-10 years ago, go there. If you want to see more thoroughly designed, updated, and tested superheroes since then, read on!

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THE BASICS
Where to begin... this all started many, many years ago. Somewhere between the Marvel license getting (brief) life in official Heroscape and before the creation of the C3G, I began designing SuperHeroScape™ customs. I was by no means the first (nor the best), and in fact that's a disclaimer I need to make clear right away: most of what you'll see is heavily influenced by or based on the talented work of other Heroscapers. While I love superheroes as much as the next person, I do not read comic books. So all of my designs had to be informed by those more knowledgeable, though I did use what I do know about superheroes (from various media, recently the excellent MCU) to adapt and customize. If you see an awesome power design, chances are someone else deserves more credit than I, though I may have put my own twist on it. I apologize to all other superhero custom creators, because I do not record anywhere what sparked my inspiration. (Feel free to chime in when you see something you created!)

While this project may have started many years ago, it has continued ever since and is in fact ongoing. I'm only now beginning to share as after many (countless) iterations, I feel I have finally arrived at "finalized" versions of these heroes. I'll begin with a re-imagining of the Marvel Master Set; followed by the Wave 1 characters (that we were shown, but were never released ); a Wave 2 that rounds out some of the heroes, villains, and teams; and Waves 3 and 4 to arrive at a 50-hero canon.

Note that this project is self-contained. Since there were only 10 official figures, they don't exist anymore. These heroes are also not intended to mix with any other creations, including C3G, though they may play just fine. They should mix OK with classic 'scape (arguments about Thanos + Deathreavers aside): every design is compared to at least one classic 'scape design, and the formula I use to calculate points is the same for classic as for superheroes. No, I will not be sharing that formula. No one has "the" formula, so I encourage everyone to come up with their own that will get point costs into the ballpark, as mine does, with a lot more math and plenty of tweaking after the fact.

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CHANGES
As noted, the official Marvel figures don't exist as part of this project. Beyond that, you'll notice several departures from official cards. Most notably wording. Most official wording is OK, there's just too much of it. As such, my main focus on every card, in every power is to reduce word count. Superheroes tend to have more and wordier powers, so every little bit helps. Even when official wording wasn't bad (Kozuke Samurai's Charging Assault), it often wasn't consistent. No more are some enemy figures "enemy figures" while others are "opponent's figures". I even massively streamlined Flying's wording, though in the end I put a Flying symbol on the cards, like Super Strength: it's just that common. I'll share it later for reference, but it functions the same.
Spoiler Alert!


Here are some other changes, some of which I expect some people won't like. But this is my project, not yours, so deal with it. I've also probably missed a few.

Leaving engagement attacks are now passing swipes. Primarily, this was to avoid confusion with what is and isn't an "attack" (as such, "attacks of opportunity" wouldn't work). It also saves space.

The 20-sided die is now the d20. I never understood the pushback on this, and always imagined D&D players dying a little on the inside every time they read "20-sided die" on a Heroscape card from the D&D era. Everyone should know what a d20 is, and a simple line in the rules defines it for those who don't ("dX" = "die with X sides"; see, that wasn't hard).

A normal attack from an adjacent attacking figure is now an adjacent normal attack. Come on, that was just way too many words before. Likewise with similar powers for non-adjacency, special attacks, etc.

Special Attacks are named such, then not mentioned again. For example "Any figures adjacent to the chosen figure are also affected by Wild Swing special attack." Saves space, and really shouldn't be confusing.

Likewise, powers aren't called out as "special powers". If a power gets called out, it's by name only "blah blah blah affects all figures with the Flying special power within X clear sight spaces." Rarely, it will get mentioned, but unless it'll obviously be a source of confusion I erred on the side of fewer words.

Or higher has been replaced with +. Big space saver.

Instead of figures being "within X clear sight spaces of this figure" they're now just "within X clear sight spaces." The intuitive thing to measure from is of course the thing with that power, o now it only needs to be spelled out if counting from some other thing (or it would otherwise be too confusing).

Defending: a much shorter way to say "when rolling defense dice".

Things like "automatic", "immediately", and "unblockable" are simply gone, since if you just do what the card says those words don't actually change anything. Bye!

And there are probably still more relatively common changes.

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NEW RULES
Flying as a symbol could probably fall in this category, but really there are only a few. Even then they're just minor fun and balance tweaks, not a major change to Heroscape as we know it in any way.

Knockback
When a figure with Super Strength attacks with an adjacent normal attack, after damage if the attacker rolled more blanks (adding 1 if at least 1 was rolled and the defender does not have Super Strength) than the defender, move the defender in a straight line 1 space for each excess blank. If the defender cannot complete this movement due to another figure or Destructible Object or terrain elevation equal to or greater than their height, roll one attack die against each affected figure and Destructible Object.

Knockback exists in various forms throughout various customs projects. This is my take, intended to be somewhat of a rarity (since it automatically applies to every figure with Super Strength) that nonetheless creates interesting choices and moments in the game. It's also intended to be a mandatory rule (making it optional means it has to be declared, or not, before every attack). Just as it's possible to take damage and not get knocked back, it's possible to get knocked back without having taken damage.


Molten Lava
Subtract 1 from your roll if the figure has Super Strength.
• If you roll 1, nothing happens.
• If you roll 2-8, this figure receives 1 wound.
• If you roll 9-18, this figure receives 2 wounds.
• If you roll 19-20, this figure is destroyed.

There are a lot of Small and Medium superheroes who will have a very bad day if they slip (or get knocked back) into lava, hence the change. It's still just as devastating to Squads, but now heroes aren't instantly toast (most of the time). Since it has been toned down, it's also inverted from the official rule so that things like the Glyph of Lodin no longer help.


Ruined Buildings
When the Wall Destructible Object is destroyed, remove the ruined floor section and place any figures on the ruined floor section onto the spaces directly below. If the figure cannot be placed due to another figure or a Destructible Object on that space, roll attack dice for each figure or Destructible Object equal to its remaining Life. The figure or Destructible Object which rolled the fewest skulls (or tied for fewest) is destroyed, any remaining figure or Destructible Object receives wounds equal to the number of skulls rolled for it, then place the remaining figure or Destructible Object (if any) on that space.

This rule has two-fold intent. First and foremost, to prevent ranged figures from camping on the ruins and wiping out melee figures who can't retaliate. Second, to prevent parking Deathreavers or other expendable figures underneath to destroy falling figures due to no legal placements. The roll-off has been reworked into a single roll. It is possible for everything to be destroyed.


Glyphs
Some figures have powers that start them with a glyph on their card. A figure that starts the game with a glyph cannot voluntarily drop that glyph.
When a figure carrying a glyph is affected by Knockback from an enemy figure's attack, that figure must drop one glyph on its space before being moved.

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