Wave 11 Boosters

[Robotech Master]

Originally Posted by Grim

This reminds me of the old elements/generals discussion that comes up occasionally. I wonder if we will someday see:

Wood Elemental
Metal Elemental

(Are there such elementals in D&D minis?)

No. Aside from the main ones, there were lesser ones like Storm, Ooze, and Smoke. Not sure if those carried into 4.0 though, as I haven't taken a look at manual of the planes. There was a mineral elemental a long time ago, but there haven't been any miniatures of any of the other types of elementals to my knowledge, just other 'types' of elementals, like Salamandars and Firebats and Archons and Xorns.

Here's how you get six classical elements. You combine the four Greek ones and the five Chinese ones:

Greek elements: air, earth, fire, water
Chinese elements: earth, fire, metal, water, wood



And wala! Six elements. Perfect.

Add Japanese and you have:
Air, Earth, Fire, Water, and 'Aether' (often translated as either Void, Heaven, Sky, etc).

[BiggaBullfrog]

Originally Posted by A_Train

Tor Kul Na with the move +4 move sounds awesome.

Unless you end up rolling a 1 on your first Trample Stomp attempt.

Has anyone had any ideas for painting/marking Wyvern multiples? I've been considering painting the rocks on the base; any other ideas?

[JairEmia]

maybe paint the eyes different colors?

[dok]

I was thinking the same thing, Grim. I was sort of bummed they "switched" the water and air elementals, because I thought DocHex's argument was so compelling.

Originally Posted by Robotech Master

No. Aside from the main ones, there were lesser ones like Storm, Ooze, and Smoke. Not sure if those carried into 4.0 though, as I haven't taken a look at manual of the planes. There was a mineral elemental a long time ago, but there haven't been any miniatures of any of the other types of elementals to my knowledge, just other 'types' of elementals, like Salamandars and Firebats and Archons and Xorns.

Going back 17+ years to the last time I played D&D, the elementals were:

Ash, Fire, Brilliance (not sure I'm remembering that right),
Magma,
Dust, Earth, Mineral,
Ooze,
Salt, Water, Steam,
Ice,
Vacuum, Air, Lightning,
Smoke

[Hero Hot Hatch]

I have to write the I'm almost totally turned off by this coming wave. It's missing the HS flavor that I love so much. It's like blobs of plastic a 3 year old would make with play-doh. I also dislike that they are mixing uncommon heroes with common squads in sets and I will have all those other play-doh figures collecting dust. I hope future waves return to the roots of HS - well made and well defined heroes or squads that are nice to look at and play with. This might be the first wave that I pass.

[wriggz]

Originally Posted by Hero Hot Hatch

I have to write the I'm almost totally turned off by this coming wave. It's missing the HS flavor that I love so much. It's like blobs of plastic a 3 year old would make with play-doh. I also dislike that they are mixing uncommon heroes with common squads in sets and I will have all those other play-doh figures collecting dust. I hope future waves return to the roots of HS - well made and well defined heroes or squads that are nice to look at and play with. This might be the first wave that I pass.

Funny even before D&D I was expecting elemental forces. It just made sense. As for the "blobs of playdoh" I have no idea how a water or fire creature would look. I think the translucent plastic was a smart move. Really, the two humans from the master set could pass for historic/mythic figures, we already had dwarves and the other creatures only add to the deversity.

Personally I will imagin the elementals as scientific experiments gone horribly wrong since many of the first horror movies featured creatures that look (and act like the cards predispose) just like this.

[Takanuva]

Originally Posted by Hero Hot Hatch

I have to write the I'm almost totally turned off by this coming wave. It's missing the HS flavor that I love so much. It's like blobs of plastic a 3 year old would make with play-doh. I also dislike that they are mixing uncommon heroes with common squads in sets and I will have all those other play-doh figures collecting dust. I hope future waves return to the roots of HS - well made and well defined heroes or squads that are nice to look at and play with. This might be the first wave that I pass.

Shun the non-believer! Shun!

[Creationist]

Originally Posted by Takanuva

Shun the non-believer! Shun!

While I do not agree with HHM's opinion, this sort of attitude of conformity or else is not good for the website. He is entitled to his own opinion. I know you are being sarcastic, but that seems to be the majority view of the new D&D movement.

[Greyelephant]

Originally Posted by Hero Hot Hatch

I have to write the I'm almost totally turned off by this coming wave. It's missing the HS flavor that I love so much. It's like blobs of plastic a 3 year old would make with play-doh. I also dislike that they are mixing uncommon heroes with common squads in sets and I will have all those other play-doh figures collecting dust. I hope future waves return to the roots of HS - well made and well defined heroes or squads that are nice to look at and play with. This might be the first wave that I pass.

I understand what you're talking about. However, I feel that the lizardmen are something I've wanted for sometime now.

Just buy what you want and if it's something that's got a figure or 2 that you don't want, trade/sell them. That's what I've been doing ever since I've been buying Heroscape. That to me is what makes it great that they've come out with "uncommon heroes". It makes it to where you won't be stuck with some "unique" type figures that nobody wants duplicates of.

Great job guys, keep up the good work!

[iceman3317]

Originally Posted by Hero Hot Hatch

I have to write the I'm almost totally turned off by this coming wave. It's missing the HS flavor that I love so much. It's like blobs of plastic a 3 year old would make with play-doh. I also dislike that they are mixing uncommon heroes with common squads in sets and I will have all those other play-doh figures collecting dust. I hope future waves return to the roots of HS - well made and well defined heroes or squads that are nice to look at and play with. This might be the first wave that I pass.

Yes,I understand you as well. In fact I didn't like it when we first heard the news,but I got to the point where I love it. Elementals have no real forme. They are just matter that has formed together to create something that has it's own type of life. I would have liked the old elementals anyways,but these are just as great. Before DnD even started in Heroscape,we used them to make our own figures,but when they make them we get bad. That really isn't right. I'm not saying you are mad,just disappointed. Not all the game play is about the looks,but the way they act in play. We should be thankful that we are even getting new stuff.

[Kroz]

Originally Posted by Hero Hot Hatch

I have to write the I'm almost totally turned off by this coming wave. It's missing the HS flavor that I love so much. It's like blobs of plastic a 3 year old would make with play-doh. I also dislike that they are mixing uncommon heroes with common squads in sets and I will have all those other play-doh figures collecting dust. I hope future waves return to the roots of HS - well made and well defined heroes or squads that are nice to look at and play with. This might be the first wave that I pass.

To me these seem and feel a lot like a HS figure. Seeing the other DnD minis out there and some of the figures that the custom people use (no offense) make these fit in perfectly. My own opinion. I'm not trying to bash you or anything. I'm just disagreeing. Everyone seems to like the translucent figures.

Now my question is, if I can see a figure through the fire elemental or the wind elemental, can I still attack as I can see their target zone? I mean technically it seems like I should be able to.

[Grungebob]

Originally Posted by Creationist

While I do not agree with HHM's opinion, this sort of attitude of conformity or else is not good for the website. He is entitled to his own opinion. I know you are being sarcastic, but that seems to be the majority view of the new D&D movement.

Oh c'mon he's clearly kidding. Nothing wrong with hate for the D&D, but nothing wrong with ribbing somebody either.