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Re: [Pod 1] UNIT NAME (Ob Nixilis, Demon of Spite) - Design
How about -1 DEF 3 spaces AURA LINE OF SIGHT, -2 DEF AURA ADJACENT.
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Re: [Pod 1] UNIT NAME (Ob Nixilis, Demon of Spite) - Design
I've been relatively quiet here lately, but I've still been following the threads here actively and excited to see the progress that's being made on all the new units!
I also thought I'd throw out a suggestion as a way to differentiate Ob's aura from Gothlok. What if you added an engagement requirement? As a possibility: Quote:
You could also go the other way and make the aura only affect enemy units who are unengaged, but I don't like how that would discourage Ob from working with melee units. Perhaps something like this could work? Quote:
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Re: [Pod 1] UNIT NAME (Ob Nixilis, Demon of Spite) - Design
Can we work it so the ability checks the card for any ranged attacks and if so applies -2, if not applies -1? If applying different reductions in defense is an issue I'd be cool with it only working units with a ranged attack.
This would make it more interesting to me at least. Last edited by Jaur0n; November 12th, 2019 at 01:29 PM. Reason: reasons |
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Re: [Pod 1] UNIT NAME (Ob Nixilis, Demon of Spite) - Design
@Captain Stupendous
I like your second idea actually. In thoery I like
@Jaur0n
's as well but don't know how I feel about refencing the range value on a card (I guess the redacted Laglor did). I have another a similar idea, how about a ranged aura that is -2D against EITHER squads or common figures but -1D on all else.
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Please comment if you like mine, Captain Stupendous', Jaur0n's, or anther previous suggestion. Also which word is better (any precedence ) between "unfriendly", "nonfrendly", "opponent", or "enemy" figure? C3V/SoV cards @ 3/page PDF / LeftOn4ya's Customs (including Jurassic World) / Competitive Unit Alters / New? Start Here! Unit Debates REVIVED - #76 Tandros Kreel vs Torin "Today is a good day to die... but the day is not yet over"
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#173
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Re: [Pod 1] UNIT NAME (Ob Nixilis, Demon of Spite) - Design
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I understand the desire to not step on Gothlok's signature power, and I agree. So let's try to be honestly different but with the same feeling, not just some variation of -x defense. Quote:
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Re: [Pod 1] UNIT NAME (Ob Nixilis, Demon of Spite) - Design
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Re: [Pod 1] UNIT NAME (Ob Nixilis, Demon of Spite) - Design
I think having it effect attacks done at range more would be more interesting as well. -2 def in melee is pretty harsh and would need to be heavily costed as a result. May have to differentiate with normal and special attacks.
Fear labeling would then set fearless units to be immune, which may not be a bad thing. |
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Re: [Pod 1] UNIT NAME (Ob Nixilis, Demon of Spite) - Design
I like Scy's aura.
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Re: [Pod 1] UNIT NAME (Ob Nixilis, Demon of Spite) - Design
@Scytale
interesting idea. Even with 3 defense it can reduce average defense slightly (-25.9% if I did my math right). In theory it is like reducing any defense above 3 to 1/3 of >3 (so 6 defense is ~like 4 defense, 4 defense is ~like 3.3333). I am simplifying math a little but think the idea is interesting (even if needs worded better). I do like that it does not seem overpowered when stacked with Gothlok or any of the Attack boosters. For wording, this is slightly better but seems too formal, maybe others have ideas:
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Re: [Pod 1] UNIT NAME (Ob Nixilis, Demon of Spite) - Design
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I like that wording. |
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Re: [Pod 1] UNIT NAME (Ob Nixilis, Demon of Spite) - Design
I don’t see why folks are bent out of shape about using Gothlok’s power. As a non-C3V insider, it’s his Charge that’s his signature power, not his Aura. Auras got reused a bit in ‘scape already. And any of them that put a “creative” twist on it always felt flat. Kiova’s Gift of the Empress could have been simply +1 Defense for Einarian Kyrie and she would have been seen as just as a crappy Raelin rather than a total waste of points.
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Re: [Pod 1] UNIT NAME (Ob Nixilis, Demon of Spite) - Design
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One question that isn't 100% clear is how this aura would interact with Tough and similar powers. I am guessing that as worded above, the bonus shields for Tough wouldn't count towards triggering the aura, so a Gorrillinator who rolled one shield plus the automatic one for tough would not have any shields removed, despite being within the aura. This is probably a relatively simple ruling for most players to make, but I could still see it potentially tripping up new players. |
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