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C3G Legacy Library This is the archive for all the designs released in the original era of C3G. Feel free to post any figure specific questions in their individual books.


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Old November 28th, 2015, 03:05 PM
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Re: The Book of Jason Voorhees (Breathing)

I'd go machete.
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Old November 28th, 2015, 03:26 PM
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Re: The Book of Jason Voorhees (Breathing)

That was just a placeholder name, I figured we'd try to get something more thematic to the series/character. Machete Massacre, Slashing Resiliance(if combined), Slasher, Take Your Best Shot...

I like the 3rd art best, but I don't know the rules on fan art vs comic art.
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Re: The Book of Jason Voorhees (Breathing)

With such an easy chance to come back from the dead, I do worry that he'll be too strong. Numbers can be tweaked in testing though, and I like the overall design. Nicely captures the slow, relentless stalker feel.

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Re: The Book of Jason Voorhees (Breathing)

First thing I'm going to pair him with is Iron Patriot. I can't stand a long wait on a slow figure.

Probably Cap or Star Lord too, just because I want to see how he plays at 5 attack. Jason definitely deserves at least 5 attack with how strong he is.

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Old November 28th, 2015, 08:58 PM
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Re: The Book of Jason Voorhees (Breathing)

I'd say his advance needs to be more surprising, and also represent more danger. Maybe something like this:

OUT OF NOWHERE
After an opponent's figure ends its turn, you may reveal an X order Marker on this card to place Jason on any empty space within 6 spaces of his current position. After placing Jason, if he is adjacent to a figure who's turn just ended, you may roll one unblock able attack die against that figure, or two unblockable attack die if the figure was engaged with Jason at any point during its turn.

To me, a slow, relentless approach is not appropriate... He almost supernaturally appears out of nowhere... And usually kills somebody right away. If think this would more accurately capture the feel of his "think you've escaped, but there he is!" nature.

As for coming back from the dead, I'd say it's more iconic for him to escape seemingly fatal wounds than to come back from the dead. To me, his returning from the dead would not happen multiple times within the time span of a battle. Maybe something like this:

UNNATURAL RESISTANCE
If Jason is attacked by an adjacent figure and receives no wounds from that attack, the attacking figure receives a wound. At the end of the round, if Jason is not destroyed, remove all wound markers from this card.

Combined with 6 lives or so, he would give the enemy a chance to chip away at him, but if they don't finish him, he'll be back with a vengeance.

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Re: The Book of Jason Voorhees (Breathing)

That sounds very OP Margloth..I'd want the life reduced further than 6 for that.
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Old November 28th, 2015, 09:30 PM
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Re: The Book of Jason Voorhees (Breathing)

Even with 0 defense? It could be tweaked of course.

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Re: The Book of Jason Voorhees (Breathing)

Right, I keep forgetting he has no defense..I'm not used to figures having no defense..in which case, I'd worry more about play-ability. Personally I'd just Super Leap someone like Hulk adjacent and smash the crap out of him in round 1 and be done with it.
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Re: The Book of Jason Voorhees (Breathing)

Wow, interesting to see Jason! I know we voted against him in C3G a while back. I personally thought I could see superheroes fighting him, so cool to see!
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Re: The Book of Jason Voorhees (Breathing)

I don't care so much for the Unnatural Resistance. With 0 defense, and 6 life, he'll easily be dealt with then that's that. I can't see many people wanting to draft a figure with 0 defense, with no defensive/wound removing boost when attacked, and once destroyed can't come back. Especially if he's sitting with an attack of 4, even with his Out of Nowhere unblockables. As Karat said, in most cases, it'll take any decent hitter one round and he'll be done for. Not really worth the investment, and I don't think one would enjoy playing as him in that case.

I think the Resilience + Ft13th, 0 defense makes for a great play experience on both sides, as well as thematic. The idea being that Jason in many ways looks like he should die, and does die, but then he pops up again, often times in the same film. Even some films take place the next day from the previous film. So IMO, him being destroyed then coming back once he rolls a 13 or higher(he only has 1 shot per round to do this btw, that's less than 50% chance), represents him getting back up and fighting again very well.

I do like your Out of Nowhere approach. I'd still want the original name on it, as it's iconic to the character, but I think your approach is worth considering for that. I like the slow moving stalking aspects, but I do wish he had a way to essentially teleport, and the unblockables are a nice add on. So if we can somehow merge the two, it might make for the best. I'll let others chime in on that, before making my own judgment.
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Re: The Book of Jason Voorhees (Breathing)

What is your opinion of the design currently in the SP Dysole?

Great to see you Margloth. Some great mechanics and theme in those suggestions.

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