The Book of Court of Owls

[Soundwarp SG-1]

Alrighty, this passes and such. I updated the SP a bit:

Made one final change to Behind Granite and Lime by cutting the Assassin requirement. I needed to get rid of something to keep everything still fitting and that bit wasn't super necessary anymore. It has made the power a bit 'generic' now though, so IDK if people would prefer a more reusable name now. 'Safe Haven' or something maybe.

Also gave the last power a shorter name (which I had to do for card space), if someone has an idea for a more evocative name that is still short let me know.

[japes]

Watched Batman vs Robin animated movie last night with my son...now I have more understanding of these guys.

[IAmBatman]

Originally Posted by japes

Watched Batman vs Robin animated movie last night with my son...now I have more understanding of these guys.

That's my main source as well, since they popped up in the comics right after I quit being a regular reader.

[tcglkn]

Planning to hit these guys soon. What should I look to test them with?

[Soundwarp SG-1]

Gamora is probably the big one just for the value of the revive. I don’t think they really have the juice to be the sole providers of OM management/turn efficiency, so I’d probably do them plus Hand Ninjas or Ra’s II and the however many Assassins fit.


Hmm, just realized the Hired Guns aren’t limited to Heroes for their attack replacement thing, so we neeed to figure out how that works. Definitely don’t want them getting 48 attacks per turn

[Yodaking]

Change the class to something else?

Schemers
Bosses
Manipulators

[IAmBatman]

Industrialists? Founders?

[japes]

Originally Posted by Soundwarp SG-1

Hmm, just realized the Hired Guns aren’t limited to Heroes for their attack replacement thing, so we neeed to figure out how that works. Definitely don’t want them getting 48 attacks per turn

That could have been embarrassing for us to miss.

[Soundwarp SG-1]

Changing the class here is just putting a bandaid on a bullet wound to me. Like it just harms this design to temporarily sidestep a issue without solving the issue.

The trouble is on the Hired Guns’ end, so they need to be clarified/updated/whatevered IMO. Like if it currently works where a squad of Masterminds gives 8 attacks per Mastermind squad figure, that’s obviously something we’d never ever want to happen. So we should just fix that rather than saying Crime Lord and Mastermind squads can never exist and limiting design space for no reason IMO.

[IAmBatman]

Sure, solid point. Good thing to post on over there, then.

[Soundwarp SG-1]

I kinda wanted to see if there was actually an issue first. Like the rules are a little vague on 'instead of attacking' powers and squads.

[IAmBatman]

Fair point. I'm bad at parsing the really wonky rules stuff.