The Book of Uprooted Tree

[IAmBatman]

Edit: holding off

[Tornado]

Large changes how it is thrown though.
Probably not a big deal.
Yea

[Ericth74]

Yea

[quozl]

Originally Posted by Dr. Jekyll

UPROOTED
If this Uprooted Tree is not on the battlefield and a huge Evergreen Tree is moved, immediately replace it on the battlefield with this Uprooted Tree, if possible. When this figure replaces a huge destructible object it is considered to be huge until after placement.

How does this work?

First, we'd have to change all our trees to be Huge.
Then we'd be able to throw them.
Then as soon as we do, they are replaced by an uprooted tree which are considered Huge.
Then when we place the uprooted tree so we can roll attack dice, it's no longer Huge.

[IAmBatman]

Actually, holding off on my vote for now. Need the second playtest linked to the OP and also this has been sitting long enough that I'm shaky on a few of the details of how this is working.

We don't currently have any Huge Evergreen Trees, so how were folks testing this?

[Dr. Jekyll]

Originally Posted by quozl

How does this work?

First, we'd have to change all our trees to be Huge.
Then we'd be able to throw them.
Then as soon as we do, they are replaced by an uprooted tree which are considered Huge.
Then when we place the uprooted tree so we can roll attack dice, it's no longer Huge.

Wouldn't all current trees be huge anyway?
Correct, which has not happened yet. Hoping this will help with that.
They shouldn't replace the trees until they are moved.
This design was written up before the big throwing rules change so there may be some issues with this wording.
I could just remove that last sentence and it should be fine. You would just roll attack dice for a large DO being thrown instead of a huge DO like the trees.

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

Actually, holding off on my vote for now. Need the second playtest linked to the OP and also this has been sitting long enough that I'm shaky on a few of the details of how this is working.

We don't currently have any Huge Evergreen Trees, so how were folks testing this?

I have the third playtest linked. No, we currently don't have any Huge Evergreen Trees other than the Tree of Life/Death that counts as such.
This should have been tested with the Tree of Life/Death.

Not going to actively pursue a life of making Evergreens throwable at the moment.

This was made in order to get the ball rolling on that front and finish up the Tree of Life.

[tcglkn]

Originally Posted by Alexandros

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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: I think making things like evergreen trees throwable (as discussed previously in the thread and making them feel like a more present weapon to have to adapt to is very interesting. Even without the change, these still feel like an important TDO. Also thought it was very cool that they actually do something to movement outside of completely blocking a space. It's nice to give your average Super Strength character a special attack to help attack certain magical characters/kryptonians/viltrumites. I'm a big fan of these new TDOs in general, and this feels like one of the more dynamic designs I've gotten to play with.

Were you testing as if the Evergreen Trees could be thrown?

[IAmBatman]

Looking back at Tornado's test, seems like he tested it exclusively with Evergreen Trees.

Since this has no points cost attached to it, shouldn't make a huge difference for the Uprooted Tree, but it's notable that Evergreens aren't throwable even with our new casual Throwing rules, because they don't have sizes.

That means they can domino into each other, at least.

[Tornado]

I thought that was the whole point. So we could make them throw-able.
I liked how it played.

[tcglkn]

Originally Posted by Tornado

I thought that was the whole point. So we could make them throw-able.
I liked how it played.

It gives us the option to in the future but it does not change how the rules work now.

[IAmBatman]

They're not Huge, though. So they aren't throwable.

[Tornado]

But they can be now.
Dream bigger.