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Re: The Book of Kingpin (II) (Initial Playtesting Phase)
Alrighty, got an opening round of testing done, sorry it took awhile. I'll have the rest of the tests up tonight or so.
NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Kingpin II @220 points - Theme Test - Pass - Bonding Test - Pass - Synergies Test - Pass - Power Check - Pass - Fun Test - Pass - Fun Competitive Test - Pass - Drafting Test - Pass - Usage Test - Pass - Strategy Test - Pass Army Test 1 Map: Island Plane Crash (No E-Glyph) Units: Kingpin's Crew: Kingpin II (220), Wrecker (230), Bulldozer (190), Piledriver (190), Thunderball (190), Daredevil (180)- 1200 total vs Blue Avengers: Ms. Marvel (350), Incredible Hulk (C3G) (380), Thor (430), Skrull Infiltrator x 4 (40)- 1200 total
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___________________________________________________________ Army Test 2 Rematch of the above
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___________________________________________________________ Army Test 3 Map: Sewer Labyrinth Units: Kingpin of Mutants: Kingpin II (220), Whirlwind (190), Mentallo (135), Spider-Girl (140), X-23 (220), Typhoid Mary (120), Gambit (210), Armor (100), Jubilee (60), Oracle (110)- 1405 total vs Cage Fighters: Luke Cage (190), Iron Fist (260), Wolverine (280), Shang-Chi (230), Tigra (170), Moon Knight (150), Firestar (120), Skrull Infiltrator X1 (10)- 1410 total
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___________________________________________________________ Army Test 4 Map: Sewer Labyrinth Units: To Steal a Kingpin!: Kingpin II (220), Shocker (160), Catwoman II (170), Crime Alley Crooks x 3 (195), Bodyguard x1 (15)- 760 total vs Sacre Code Blue: Lt. Stone (140), Code Blue Officer x 3 (210), Beat Cops x1 (65), SWAT Assaulter x 5 (125), SWAT Rifleman x3 (105), SWAT Explosives Expert x3 (105), Skrull Infiltrator x1 (10)- 760 total
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___________________________________________________________ THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: It's a bit hard to judge Kingpin's impact given his role as pretty much pure support, but I think he is in a good place. The Wrecking Crew are one of his better options since they're already a pretty potent team, but it didn't feel like anything Kinpin did propelled them into broken territory My Repaints and Mods: Updated 1-13 My Custom Cards: Updated 4-15 My Custom Superheroes: Updated 1-13 My figure images for online games: Alliance figures, Utgar figures My Etsy Store Last edited by Soundwarp SG-1; December 7th, 2017 at 02:46 AM. |
#38
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Re: The Book of Kingpin (II) (Initial Playtesting Phase)
Hmmm....should he maybe have a clear sight restriction on his boosts. Not sure if it would have made any impact on that game (jungle trees can block LOS too) but something worth discussing. From a theme stand point he seems more like the type of character that would fall into the LOS limitation group rather than those who do not (ie. mental powers/technology).
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#39
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Re: The Book of Kingpin (II) (Initial Playtesting Phase)
Glad you did a re-match with Wrecking Crew.
I have found it is a good idea to get in two or three tests with them as they can be so swing-y. I would suggest each tester gets in at least one match with them, especially if they are a prime build. I could not believe I defeated them with the Dark Judges the first match and then they completely crushed the DJs the next two. Good stuff. |
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Re: The Book of Kingpin (II) (Initial Playtesting Phase)
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Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those. |
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Re: The Book of Kingpin (II) (Initial Playtesting Phase)
I thought we were waiting on another test or two from Soundwarp? I'd like to move him along as well, but two games is a little on the short side for an initial.
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Re: The Book of Kingpin (II) (Initial Playtesting Phase)
Yeah, I've got some more tests to get up. Sorry for the delay, a friend of mine was in the hospital for a bit, so I've been away from my computer and test stuff. On the line of sight issue, I don't think it is needed. Kingpin of Crime is a strategic level power, not a tactical one. It's meant to represent him organizing and inspiring (through fear mostly) underworld types, he's not like barking orders to 'doge that laser beam' or whatever in real time.
My Repaints and Mods: Updated 1-13 My Custom Cards: Updated 4-15 My Custom Superheroes: Updated 1-13 My figure images for online games: Alliance figures, Utgar figures My Etsy Store |
#43
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Re: The Book of Kingpin (II) (Initial Playtesting Phase)
Yeah I wasn't clear...I meant move the initial along...it looked like Soundwarp paused and YK made a comment. I was leading more to a ... "does anyone have anything more to add to YK's comment and if not continue on with the initial"
Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those. |
#44
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Re: The Book of Kingpin (II) (Initial Playtesting Phase)
Going off of the Batter Up! strategy...
Kingpin II 220 Shocker - Thief - 160 ( VIBROSHOCK KNOCKBACK) TOMOE GOZAN - Assassin - 170 (Engagement Strike) Electro - Criminal - 135 - Electric Skin If you can get Shocker pushing a figure into a Tomoe/Electro sandwich you can have a lot of chances to put some wounds on a figure. Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those. |
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Re: The Book of Kingpin (II) (Initial Playtesting Phase)
I believe Thunderball can move people with his SA too if you felt like trying him outside of the Wrecking Crew build.
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#46
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Re: The Book of Kingpin (II) (Initial Playtesting Phase)
Alrighty, finally got my other two tests written up. Sorry it took so long. I've now done a test for every bullet point of Kingpin of Crime except the Assassin one (though test three does switch to that for a bit), and both the enabling and disabling versions of Criminal Frame-Up.
My Repaints and Mods: Updated 1-13 My Custom Cards: Updated 4-15 My Custom Superheroes: Updated 1-13 My figure images for online games: Alliance figures, Utgar figures My Etsy Store |
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Re: The Book of Kingpin (II) (Initial Playtesting Phase)
Looking good! What was the result of the Lawman match?
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#48
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Re: The Book of Kingpin (II) (Initial Playtesting Phase)
Sorry, it cut off part of my edit apparently (my computer really hates this site), I've fixed it now.
My Repaints and Mods: Updated 1-13 My Custom Cards: Updated 4-15 My Custom Superheroes: Updated 1-13 My figure images for online games: Alliance figures, Utgar figures My Etsy Store |
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