The Book of Hulk (Avengers)

[IAmBatman]

Originally Posted by MrNobody

Both Wasp and Captain Falcon provide turn efficiency but are fairly fragile. Hulk would add markers but also would provide a nice backup for when the leader falls. Tony uses the X so he’s not a perfect pick but is a usable one.

That's the only difference.

[MrNobody]

Originally Posted by japes

Sam give one to Wasp and one to Hulk, Wasp gives one to Sam...they are all covered.

Okay, but what if I want to play an army with say...Captain Falcon, Hulk, Black Panther and War Machine. Hulk bringing a Marker adds something there.

[johnny139]

I do get Nobody's logic, just on a purely aesthetic basis. If the goal is "Hulk that is an Avenger," letting him work with the Avengers but not BE an Avenger, where being an Avenger is represented by giving out Avengers Markers, is just kind of a no-win situation. People who don't really want Avenger Hulk are stuck with the Marker callout, people who do want an Avengers Hulk don't get one - not really.

"Equally distributed misery" might be the term for it.

[MrNobody]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

That's the only difference.

Yeah but that's true too if he's also just a pure Rival version that doesn't reference markers at all. To be clear, I'd prefer pure Rival Hulk over this weird hybrid take we have going. My point is if we want him to be an Avenger, let him be a real Avenger. If we don't want him being an Avenger, why force that connection with a weird half-measure?

Want to make sure my other post doesn't get lost on the bottom of last page btw.

EDIT: Ninja'd again by Johnny. Think he's saying it better than I am.

[Karat]

I think I'd go more hog wild with the Rivalry and just let that make him a decent option as an Avenger but not a required draft

[IAmBatman]

johnny's take isn't an Avengers Hulk, that's true. He's an Avenger's Rival Hulk. But competitive rival that teams up with them. So it's more the Avengers are using Hulk by steering his anger, which probably represents the bulk of thematic team ups with them in the comics.

Which is to say it's Hulk being as much of an Avenger as he is for most of his appearances with Avengers in the comics.

Fwiw, I'd be fine seeing him placing an Avengers marker still and calling the power "Avengers Rivalry."

[Yodaking]

I like Johnny's compromise. I'm going to update with that.

[tcglkn]

What if he started the game with an Avengers Marker (not on his card so unsure how to word it), and when a figure deals a wound, he places an Avengers Marker and that starts his rivalry power?

[Yodaking]

Originally Posted by MrNobody

Okay, but what if I want to play an army with say...Captain Falcon, Hulk, Black Panther and War Machine. Hulk bringing a Marker adds something there.

You could make a Black Panther Avengers card.

[IAmBatman]

Originally Posted by Yodaking

You could make a Black Panther Avengers card.

I'd love to see another take on Black Panther.

[MrNobody]

I guess I just don't get why you guys would at all want a Hulk that wants to play with Avengers armies 95% of the time but don't want an Avengers Hulk.

A regular Rival Hulk would play with the Avengers just fine without (A) roping him into being an Avengers-based unit and (B) blocking off design space for a future Hulk that does use the established Avengers mechanics and aesthetics in the "proper" way.

[IAmBatman]

I don't understand how "B" is happening here at all. If you want an Avengers Hulk that gives out Avengers markers, how does this take prevent you from doing that?