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Re: The Book of Jericho (Public Testing)

Yep. And that was Ronin's intent. Just had an opportunity to make that clearer in the wording.

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Re: The Book of Jericho (Public Testing)

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Jericho

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Army Test 1
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Jericho(240), Bane(190), Diablo(140) (570)
vs.
Luke Cage(190), Shang-Chi(230), Moon Knight(150) (570)
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Army Test 2
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Jericho(240), Diablo(140), Jocasta(180), Aaron Cash(75), Invisible Woman(215) (850)
vs.
Star-Lord(250), Nebula(240), Abomination(360) (850)
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY:
Disrupting the enemy by forcing them to lose turns if he takes control of a figure with OMs can be a pain. Potentially causing the opponent to lose the game by taking control of their remaining figures is also scary. He came very close in each game to pulling that off. About an equal win and loss here at 240 makes me feel he's probably good as-is, but I'd imagine he needs the right support to allow him to be the threat he can be. Fun design.
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Re: The Book of Jericho (Public Testing)

Thanks for the games, Ark!

Realizing now that Consciousness Projection is missing anything that would keep him from taking over more than one figure at a time. Glad it didn't happen in those games because it's definitely not supposed to.

EDIT: Tweaked the wording in the SP so that he can't do that.
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Re: The Book of Jericho (Public Testing)

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Thanks for the games, Ark!

Realizing now that Consciousness Projection is missing anything that would keep him from taking over more than one figure at a time. Glad it didn't happen in those games because it's definitely not supposed to.

EDIT: Tweaked the wording in the SP so that he can't do that.
Noticed that in the report as well and was about to comment. Good catch.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Re: The Book of Jericho (Public Testing)

Results from Fresh:

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C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

JERICHO (Joseph Wilson)

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Army Test
Map : Alkali Lake (No Glyphs)
Units :
Jericho (240), Com. Gordon (90), Beat Cops x2 (130), Punisher (210), Robin *Tim Drake* (120)
= 790


VS.

Wolverine (280), Wildcat (240), Luke Cage (190), Jolt (80)
= 790


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Army Test
Map : Alkali Lake (No Glyphs)
Units :
Jericho (240), He-Man (360), Hawkeye *3* (220), Jean Grey (180)
= 1000


VS.

Fantastic Four
= 1000


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Thoughts on the Tested Unit's Cost, Balance, and Draftability : A really fun unit that forces thinking for both players. If you have him, you have to get him in position for a Projection, and then keep him safe. If against him, you have to try and keep your units from his threat range, or put at least 1 wound on him when he does take your unit. I think a cost of 240 is fair for him, he can seriously swing a game, but it can be hard to set up. Drafting into an army made to protect him seems like his best bet.

General Thoughts on the Tested Unit : Really enjoyed this PT. Jericho makes you think about every move with him and his allies, since his Projection is such a powerful ability. I know its not his main power, but Gravity Sheath is also a really fun defensive ability! It’s simple, but lets Jericho stay safe around heavy hitters with some luck. Really well made design that I've got no problem with, hopefully future Operatives will be a bit more synergistic with him though.
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Re: The Book of Jericho (Public Testing)

Sorry for the delay, tests up now

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Jericho @240 points

Set 1
Map: Island Plane Crash (No E-Glyph)
Units: There and Back Again: Jericho (240), Cosmo (160), Red Skull (Hasbro) (190), Electro (135), Arron Cash (75), Conan (200)- 1000 total vs Marvel Universe: Ms. Marvel (350), Super Skrull (Kurt but spelled dumb) (340), Red Tornado (300), Oracle (110)- 1000 total
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Set 2
Map: Sewer Labyrinth
Units: Spider-Jerry: Jericho (240), Spider-Man (Avenger) (280), Iron Man (Avenger) (270), Angel (90), Cheetah Boy (20) - 900 total vs Caged Beasts: Luke Cage (190), Iron Fist (260), Wolverine (280), Tigra (170)- 900 total
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Overall: I think he's ok. You can do some pretty nasty stuff to the enemy team, but it needs enough parts to not be super worrying. I personally didn't find reason to dip into the other Operative stuff, since I didn't feel the current ones did enough with the consultation turn to be worth the commitment to putting OMs on him. Once there are more members and synergy there I think that route will be more viable.


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Re: The Book of Jericho (Public Testing)

Thanks Soundwarp! Looking pretty even in results. I think we're good to move forward here, maybe with a 10 point bump? Just due to shenanigan potential and the fact that his faction isn't totally there yet.
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Pre yea either way
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Re: The Book of Jericho (Public Testing)

He's gonna be tested more with his faction right? Happy to leave him as is and see if he needs a bump later.
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Re: The Book of Jericho (Public Testing)

Yeah I think we could leave him as-is, but he's definitely pretty nasty at times and I don't mind a 10-point bump as-is either. I think the fact that he's in a still-growing faction is more icing on the cake than the reason to bump him.

Updated the SP to 250 because I'm leaning that way after mulling it over.

Let's send him to editing.
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