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The Book of Heimdall

The Book of Heimdall

C3G MARVEL SUPER SECRET EXCLUSIVE 36
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NOTE: Heimdall requires 1x Glyph of Bifrost

The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Hammer of Thor set.
Its model number and name are #036 / Heimdall.

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Character Bio - The Norse God of Vigilance, and Guardian of the Bifrost Bridge linking Asgard and Midgard (Earth). Heimdall was born gifted with senses so acute that they border on the extrasensory. Due to these gifts he was appointed as guardian of Asgard's Bifrost Bridge by Odin. He is the brother of Sif.
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Re: The Book of Heimdall: Design

NAME = HEIMDALL


SPECIES = ASGARDIAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = GUARDIAN
PERSONALITY = VIGILANT

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 7

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 6
DEFENSE = 8

POINTS = 390


GUARDIAN OF THE BIFROST
At the start of the game, after figures are placed, you may place a Glyph of Bifrost power-side up on any empty space on the battlefield that is not in a Start Zone. If Heimdall is in your Start Zone, instead of moving normally with Heimdall or an adjacent Asgardian figure, you may immediately place that figure on any empty space within 2 spaces of a Glyph of Bifrost. Placed figures will not take any leaving engagement attacks.

GOD OF VIGILANCE
If Heimdall is in your Start Zone and there is at least 1 Order Marker on this card, you may add 8 to your initiative roll.

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Re: The Book of Heimdall: Design

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Viegon, since the OM restriction was your idea, want to take a crack at a revised SP for this guy? Once everything looks good, I'll happily update the SP for Art (or you can, Viegon, since you're a Mod supreme).
You mean like this?

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NAME = Heimdall

SPECIES = Asgardian
UNIQUENESS = Unique Hero
CLASS = Guardian
PERSONALITY = Vigilant

SIZE/HEIGHT = Medium 5

LIFE = 7

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 6
DEFENSE = 8

POINTS = 390

GUARDIAN OF THE BIFROST
At the start of the game, after figures are placed, you may place a Glyph of Bifrost power-side up on any empty space on the battlefield that is not in a Start Zone. If Heimdall is in your Start Zone, instead of moving normally with Heimdall or an adjacent Asgardian figure, you may immediately place that figure on any empty space within 2 spaces of a Glyph of Bifrost. Placed figures will not take any leaving engagement attacks.

GOD OF VIGILANCE
If Heimdall is in your Start Zone and there is at least 1 Order Marker on this card, you may add 8 to your initiative roll.

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Since we're already making changes, do we want to consider fiddling with the wording a little to answer this FAQ (which apparently didn't make it into the OP) in the power itself? It could be pretty easily done by changing Guardian off the Bifrost to: "At the start of the first round of the game, you may place a Glyph of Bifrost...".

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Old April 16th, 2012, 07:54 AM
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Re: The Book of Heimdall: Design

"Guardian" is the correct spelling.

I think his left box stats could go up a bit, with the exception of move.

Honestly God of Vigilance isn't really doing it for me. What does the wound represent? Is Heimdall inflicting the wound, or is he warning the friendly figure who defends himself?

This guy can see essentially everything, so it's a little boring to me that trees and stuff can block his view.

Honestly, and I'm not sure that this wouldn't be too hard, but I would be more inclined to look at an Emma Frost-like power that made all opponent's figures within clear sight of your friendly figures, with some restrictions. Wikipedia says that any damage to his eyes damages his far-seeing ability, so maybe something like this?

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All figures you control are considered to have clear sight on any figures within 15 spaces of Heimdall. For each Wound Marker on this card, subtract 2 from the range of this special power.

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Re: The Book of Heimdall: Design

I don't like the theme of that. It seems more likely to me that he could warn people of impending engagements than constantly be telling everyone where everyone else is.

Also I'm not sure if you are aware of this Margloth (I know it was Good Pig who really pushed for this recently with my Ares design), but on these Norse gods, we have had a trend of having a power with the "God of" whatever they are the god of such as Thor's God of Thunder Strike and Loki's God of Evil and God of Deception. So I'd like to keep God of Vigilance as the power name here.

I went ahead and fixed my typo in his class.
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Old April 16th, 2012, 10:31 AM
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Re: The Book of Heimdall: Design

OK, my take:

I like the glyph.

I like his left box stuff.

I think his stats are probably a tad low.

I think his cost is too high (both thematically by a tad and competitively by a lot based on his current write up).

Guardian of Bifrost is a great power name and useful mechanically.

Thematically, it seems a bit odd to me that Heimdall could be so far away from the glyph of Bifrost, as he's supposed to be guarding it. It seems like when you place it at the start of the game, you should have to place him by it to guard it (thematically). Then he could always "summon" figures you control in clear sight of him to an adjacent space.

I'm not really feeling anything I've seen for God of Vigilance so far.

I do like and agree with the power title God of Vigilance, though.

From Wikipedia: "In modern psychology, vigilance, also termed sustained attention, is defined as the ability to maintain attention and alertness over prolonged periods of time."

If I think about attention and alertness, I think about not being ambushed. When I think about being ambushed, I think about being attacked (or even destroyed) when you don't have any Order Markers on your card or a chance to respond. I could see something like this:

GOD OF VIGILANCE
If there is at least one unrevealed Order Marker on this card, an opponent may not use a special power on an Army Card or a glyph to move or remove any Order Markers from any Army Cards you control.

Simple, thematic, widely useful. God-like range and something we haven't really done before. Might be a bit niche in its usefulness at times, but it's a nice counter to a lot of powers out there that can really disrupt unique hero armies.

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Re: The Book of Heimdall: Design

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Thematically, it seems a bit odd to me that Heimdall could be so far away from the glyph of Bifrost, as he's supposed to be guarding it. It seems like when you place it at the start of the game, you should have to place him by it to guard it (thematically). Then he could always "summon" figures you control in clear sight of him to an adjacent space.
Think of it like this. There are two sides to the bridge and he is guarding one side of it and sending people to the other side of it. That is the mechanic I was going for here.

I'm obviously gonna have to rework God of Vigilance so give me some time to think on the alternatives and maybe I'll just have a poll.
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Re: The Book of Heimdall: Design

Just a note on stats - I'd keep move and range the same but go up to 6 on attack and 7 or even 8 on defense. This guy is primarily a guardian and seems hard for even Thor to hurt, but he's not dishing out tons of punishment himself.

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Re: The Book of Heimdall: Design

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Just a note on stats - I'd keep move and range the same but go up to 6 on attack and 7 or even 8 on defense. This guy is primarily a guardian and seems hard for even Thor to hurt, but he's not dishing out tons of punishment himself.
Ok. I can easily make those changes. I'll mull over what you said about his powers and reply shortly.
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Re: The Book of Heimdall: Design

Cool.

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Re: The Book of Heimdall: Design

OK, that makes sense ... but then that makes the glyph itself seem kind of weird as I figured the start zone was the "other side" of the bridge ... If you wanted the Heimdall on one side and the glyph on the other side approach to work, it seems like you'd almost want two glyphs, one placed next to him and one placed within a certain number of spaces, and then you just teleport between them when you step onto one.

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Re: The Book of Heimdall: Design

I like everything here, but I do agree that God of Vigilance is a tad off, though I did honestly like that power.

I do however vehemently disagree with bats comments about the guarding of the Bifrost. The Bifrost is basically a magical bridge that he can open up to "teleport" people. Him opening that portal at the start of the game works really well for me, and it also really plays well with the glyph itself and the rest of his power - he opens a portal, he sends his allies there, his allies can come back to him, and his enemies can be sent away if they are knocked back into the bridge - I love all of that.
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