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C3G Legacy Library This is the archive for all the designs released in the original era of C3G. Feel free to post any figure specific questions in their individual books.


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Old March 1st, 2020, 05:28 PM
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Re: The Book of Crime-Master (Pondering Tweaks)
Fwiw, I like japes' Savage Plans as a combo power. I think that combo works really cohesively.

I also like the 6 auto skulls per game take.

Or, you know, just bumping the points by like 10-20 here and calling it a day.
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Re: The Book of Crime-Master (Pondering Tweaks)
I'd massively miss the Symbiote recruitment - if I'm honest, it's my favourite part of the card.

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Old March 1st, 2020, 05:41 PM
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Re: The Book of Crime-Master (Pondering Tweaks)
Gotta say I’m with LO here. From a purely mechanical (not thematic) perspective, it’s the nicest part of the card for me, especially since the Savage options are so limited.
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Old March 1st, 2020, 05:42 PM
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Re: The Book of Crime-Master (Pondering Tweaks)
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Or, you know, just bumping the points by like 10-20 here and calling it a day.
Pretty much where I'm at. Seems like different people want different things out of a refactor, so I'd rather bump the points and move along than go back to the drawing board. Leaving some time for LP to weigh in though.
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Old March 1st, 2020, 05:57 PM
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Re: The Book of Crime-Master (Design)
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Adding multi-attacks is a pretty substantial buff from previous versions. That actually makes him pretty nasty with Cap and similar.

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SYMBIOTE ASSET
At the start of the game, choose a Unique Symbiote Hero you control. While there is an Order Marker on this card, the chosen Hero is considered to have the Savage personality in addition to what is listed on its card.

SAVAGE SIX
Start the game with 6 black Investment Markers on this card. Before a Savage figure you control attacks with a normal attack, you may remove an Investment Markers from this card and add 1 additional attack die to that attack.

SAVAGE CONTINGENCY PLAN
When a Savage Unique Hero you control is destroyed, you may move any unrevealed Order Markers from its Army Card to any other card in your army

SECRET WEAPON SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 3. Attack 3.
Figures roll 3 fewer defense dice against this special attack. This special attack may only be used once per game.
I don't really love going four powers here, with two of them being start of the game powers. I can live with that direction, but I'd want to drop Symbiote Asset at that point. I only suggested it in the first place because the card was so clean, and it's not that clean anymore.
Well technically you already had four powers. I just pulled the contingency out infinite own thing because it read better.
Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Re: The Book of Crime-Master (Pondering Tweaks)
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Or, you know, just bumping the points by like 10-20 here and calling it a day.
Pretty much where I'm at. Seems like different people want different things out of a refactor, so I'd rather bump the points and move along than go back to the drawing board. Leaving some time for LP to weigh in though.
FTR...I didn't have an issue with the original. Purely brainstorming here. So don't take my participation as an indication of desiring change.
Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Well technically you already had four powers. I just pulled the contingency out infinite own thing because it read better.
Right, but like... the two sentences in Savage Six right now are simple enough at present that I'm comfortable letting them live in the same power together. I wasn't keen on the idea of increasing the complexity of one half of the power to the point that it had to be separated from the other half.

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Or, you know, just bumping the points by like 10-20 here and calling it a day.
Pretty much where I'm at. Seems like different people want different things out of a refactor, so I'd rather bump the points and move along than go back to the drawing board. Leaving some time for LP to weigh in though.
FTR...I didn't have an issue with the original. Purely brainstorming here. So don't take my participation as an indication of desiring change.
No worries, but thanks for the clarification.
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Re: The Book of Crime-Master (Pondering Tweaks)
Sort of unplugged here for a bit but I agree that none of the alternatives offered really hit the spot for me. Investment Markers could be fun, but I don't think they add enough here to warrant that complexity.
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Alright, let's send him to editing at 160.
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Re: The Book of Crime-Master (VOTE for Editing)
Ugh I'm sorry I totally forgot. Been pretty scatter-brained the last few days.

Some of the proposed changes look alright, but I don't like to see anything leaving this design. I love it as is, it's just powerful. If the other testers are confidant in him at 160, then you have my Yea
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Re: The Book of Crime-Master (VOTE for Editing)
yea. He felt close to me as is. Not worried about him breaking the game at 160 or anything.
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