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Old June 23rd, 2010, 09:56 PM
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"When revealing an order marker"

that tells me someone somewhere down the line will bond with this guy, because his Enslave apparantly is too powerful to be used when bonding. Why set up the safeguard if you're never going to use it?
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Re: Mindflayer Mastermind pre-release discussion thread

I don't like that one can't Enslave another. It did seem to make them pretty powerful, though.

These guys seem like they could be a great Mass counter. Using Psionic Blast, you can easily remover order markers before they can take a turm.
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Re: Mindflayer Mastermind pre-release discussion thread

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"When revealing an order marker"

that tells me someone somewhere down the line will bond with this guy, because his Enslave apparantly is too powerful to be used when bonding. Why set up the safeguard if you're never going to use it?
So people can't use Ornak and unbalance the crap out of him?



Although bonding would be awesome. Another Uncommon that bonds, just like the Werewolf. Prehaps a Shade-ish common squad with dulled down Psionic Blast or Enslave and Mind Flayer bonding? Perhaps that's why said his species being Mind Flayer was deliberate, because the squad will be Illithid and have Mind Flayer bonding? Now that is rampant speculation right there.
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Old June 23rd, 2010, 10:09 PM
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Re: Mindflayer Mastermind pre-release discussion thread

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"When revealing an order marker"

that tells me someone somewhere down the line will bond with this guy, because his Enslave apparantly is too powerful to be used when bonding. Why set up the safeguard if you're never going to use it?
So people can't use Ornak and unbalance the crap out of him?



Although bonding would be awesome. Another Uncommon that bonds, just like the Werewolf. Prehaps a Shade-ish common squad with dulled down Psionic Blast or Enslave and Mind Flayer bonding? Perhaps that's why said his species being Mind Flayer was deliberate, because the squad will be Illithid and have Mind Flayer bonding? Now that is rampant speculation right there.
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Re: Mindflayer Mastermind pre-release discussion thread

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"When revealing an order marker"

that tells me someone somewhere down the line will bond with this guy, because his Enslave apparantly is too powerful to be used when bonding. Why set up the safeguard if you're never going to use it?


I was thinking the same thing. It might suggest that, but now I think it says, (When revealing an order marker on "this" Mindflayer Mastermind) just to make sure were using the correct uncommon hero if using more than 1 of the same.
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Re: Mindflayer Mastermind pre-release discussion thread

Just make sure you don't let him get sunburnt...



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Old June 24th, 2010, 11:08 AM
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Re: Mindflayer Mastermind pre-release discussion thread

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"When revealing an order marker"

that tells me someone somewhere down the line will bond with this guy, because his Enslave apparantly is too powerful to be used when bonding. Why set up the safeguard if you're never going to use it?
Actually we are using that safegaurd. Think about Ornak -> 2 Mindflayers if you could enslave on those activations you could potentially get infinite activations (really more than two is pretty bad with that psi-blast) with your Mind Flayers. Heck you wouldn't even need technically Ornak, he would just make it easier to have a degenerate turn.

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Re: Mindflayer Mastermind pre-release discussion thread

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Just make sure you don't let him get sunburnt...



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Re: Mindflayer Mastermind pre-release discussion thread

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"When revealing an order marker"

that tells me someone somewhere down the line will bond with this guy, because his Enslave apparantly is too powerful to be used when bonding. Why set up the safeguard if you're never going to use it?
So people can't use Ornak and unbalance the crap out of him?



Although bonding would be awesome. Another Uncommon that bonds, just like the Werewolf. Prehaps a Shade-ish common squad with dulled down Psionic Blast or Enslave and Mind Flayer bonding? Perhaps that's why said his species being Mind Flayer was deliberate, because the squad will be Illithid and have Mind Flayer bonding? Now that is rampant speculation right there.
Go ahead and speculate. Just know that it was not an oversight.
I still don't get it. If they were going to do a bonding squad in the future, race wouldn't matter. Whatever squad would simply bond with an Illithid hero instead of a Mindflyer hero. Could be that their doing a bonding squad and a unique Illithid hero, thus leaving the Mindflyer out of the loop, but that would look bad for continuty if you have the same race being called 2 different things in the same game.

Maybe I just put too much thought into the "story" of it all. However the "story" feels wrong. Whatever the reason, it should be Illithid. Of course, going by story, the Illithid, (or Mindflyers) would only fight for Utgar for a short time before the set up on their own and try to dominate everyone. Either that or they'd eat Utgar's brain from the git, and rule all his forces.

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Re: Mindflayer Mastermind pre-release discussion thread

I looked back through a couple Dr. Doom threads, and only found my own speculative post in Doom's book (which I would now argue against).

Has there been a ruling on what happens when/if a mind controlled NGS/KMS mind-shackles another figure, as far as who gets the mind-shackled army card?
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