The Book of Cyber-Conversion Unit

[MrNobody]

SW did the base design, but he used glue caps instead of bottle caps...which probably says something about both of us.

EDIT: Oops, just realized I forgot checklists. I’ll do those next time I’m at a computer!

[tcglkn]

Yea

[IAmBatman]

Checklist contingent yea, then.

[johnny139]

Bats-Yea Contingent Yea

I do think it's pretty potent for a DO, but the fact you need Cybermen to make it work helps a lot. Worth seeing how it plays, as the theme seems pretty on point - it tells a clear narrative.

[MrNobody]

This passes once the checklists are done...and lo, there they are!

Competitive

Spoiler Alert!

Efficiency- Check to see if your design is providing armies with turns/moves/etc. to a degree that would make it difficult or impossible for an opponent to keep up with your output.

1. Does your design allow itself or figures to move/attack/take a turn/etc. instead of/in addition to your normal turn for revealing an Order Marker? Is it granting these benefits to too broad a range of units? Does it combine with other powers to create overly long or powerful chains of actions?
No.

2. Does your design allow you to take actions during an opponent's turn? Can it combine with other powers to create tediously long reactions to enemy actions or a restrictive environment?
No.

3. Does your design allow you to rearrange your Order Markers or otherwise bypass the costs of Order Marker requirements on the special powers of other figures?
No.

4. Is your design doing anything outside of a player's turn, at the start or end of the round? Is the effect too powerful by itself or when combined with other powers?
Inflicting a wound.

5. Does your design have any powers that trigger anytime it moves as opposed to only when it moves normally on its turn? Will it be too efficient when combined with figures that grant extra moves to figures?
It's a DO.

6. Is your design adding or subtracting from initiative rolls? Will it pair too easily with other figures that alter initiative or have powers triggering on the results of initiative rolls?
No.


Potency- Check to see if your design is wounding/removing/etc. enemy figures, increasing the chances of other figures in your army doing so, or otherwise directly effecting the number of figures available to players to a degree that would make it difficult or impossible for an opponent to recover from.

1. Does your design have a chance to inflict wounds or destroy figures? Is it getting these chances too frequently or having to high a chance of success? Is the power balanced against expensive targets that can cause a massive swing in the game when destroyed?
Yes, we'll see if it's balanced.

2. Is your design adding to the stats or 20-sided die rolls of other figures in your army? Is it a boosting a broad enough range of units effectively enough to become a 'mandatory' draft or inhibit future design space? Can it be combined with other boosts too easily?
No.

3. Will your design benefit from stat boosts or other enhancement to an overpowering degree? Will it restrict future growth within its faction or point cost by limiting available boosts to others?
It's a DO.

4. Does your design take control of enemy figures permanently or temporarily? Is it too difficult to for your opponent to regain control of their figure or recover from the losing the figure? Does the method of taking control expose the enemy figure to the powers of other figures in your army that can easily destroy it?
No.

5. Can your design heal itself or others or revive itself or others? Is it doing so in a way that an opponent cannot hope to overcome in certain scenarios?
Potentially.

6. Does your design place enemy figures on its card or otherwise have an unconventional method of temporarily removing enemy figures from play? Will it guarantee your victory against a single remaining enemy figure?
Maybe.

Chicanery- Check to see if your design is preventing your opponent from taking actions with too much ease or is otherwise causing negative play experience through tactics that make your opponent feel you're 'not playing fair'
Maybe.

1. Does your design restrict the movement of enemy figures, or allow you to move enemy figures? Can it do so in a way that results in an unwinnable scenario for your opponent if they are down to one figure, posses only figures with a range of 1, etc.? Can your design easily combine with other figures to greatly impede enemy figures or otherwise gain an excessive advantage?
Yes.

2. Does your design effect/change the placement of an enemy's Order Markers, or remove their Order Markers entirely? Can it force Order Markers to go onto cards that have no figures on the battlefield? Can your design easily combine with other figures to completely dictate the placement of an enemy's Order Markers or remove all of their Order Markers?
No.

3. Does your design inhibit your opponent from attacking your figures or make attacking a losing proposition? Are there scenarios or combinations that make your opponent totally unable to harm your figures through attacking?
No.

4. Does your design directly negate the powers of enemy figures or otherwise ignore them in a way that can completely disrupt the opponent's strategy or leave them feeling like they are stuck playing figures without special powers?
Yes.

5. Does your design become overly powerful in a podded group of figures, or provide significant benefit to your army without leaving your Start Zone?
No.

6. You can attack your own figures in Heroscape, does your design have any powers that will trigger off of doing so or otherwise wounding/destroying your own figures? Is this intentional on your part? Will the design be too efficient or potent when doing so?
No.

Consistency

Spoiler Alert!

Consistency Concerns
Name and Identity
Verify character is named in a way that is clear, accurate and feels consistent with the way other characters are named.
It's a DO.

Uniqueness and Type
Verify that the power text reflects the listed uniqueness and type, that the uniqueness fits the character, and that squad size is listed for squads.
Done.

Left Box
If the character's species, class or personality is reused, verify that the character feels thematically consistent with other figures that have that species, class or personality. If they are not reused, verify that there is no pre-existing species, class or personality that would make more sense.
It's a DO.

Size and Height
Verify that the listed size and height are accurate. Standing the mini up next to a stack of tiles, and a few other minis of various sizes, is encouraged.
Check.

Super Strength and Flying
Verify that these special powers are present if they make sense, and not if they don't.
It's a DO.

New Powers - Names
Verify that any new powers are not using power names identical to, or very similar to, pre-existing powers. Verify that any new powers are actually new and not old powers with new names.
Check.

New Powers - Effects
Verify that the effect and timing of all new powers is clear. Verify that any logical immunities, benefits, or weaknesses (whether those be necessary for thematic or mechanical reasons) are implemented: consider whether defensive powers that work against normal attacks should also work against special attacks, whether or not a power has an elemental component that some figures should resist, and whether or not unliving figures (such as Undead and Androids) should be affected.
Check.

Reused Powers
Verify that the design is reusing powers in place of creating new ones, where reused powers could implement the same theme and mechanics with no differences or only trivial differences. Verify that any reused powers have the correct text.
Check.

Power Level
Verify that the character's movement, attack, range, and defense (in conjunction with any special powers that enhance those stats) feel consistent with the capabilities of characters with analogous powers and abilities. Verify that the character falls into a similar point range to characters with comparative powers and abilities.
It's a DO.

[MrNobody]

C3G INITIAL PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Cyber-Conversion Unit

Army Test 1
Map: Dracula’s Castle (Custom Map w/ Glyph of Wannok
Units: Team 1 (1,000):Cyber-Conversion Unit x2 (80), Cybermen x3 (360), Iron Patriot (290), War Machine (270)
Team 2 (1,000): Nightwing (200), Starfire (210), Raven (190), Superboy (240), Red Robin w/ Smoke Pellet (160)

Pre-game thoughts: Iron Patriot has done pretty well with the Cybermen, so I figured I’d start off there.

Summary of the game:

Spoiler Alert!

Round 1: T2 wins initiative
-Kori takes out a Cyberman
-A Cybermen activates the Glyph of Wannok
-Raven takes out that Cyberman

Round 2: T1 wins initiative
-Another Cyberman activates the Glyph
-Kori inflicts a wound on Norman
-Norman inflicts a wound on Tim
-War Machine inflicts a wound on Dick, but Conner takes it instead
-Kori inflicts 2 wounds on Norman
-Norman takes out Tim
-War Machine inflicts a wound on Dick
-War Machine inflicts 2 wounds on Superboy with his Chain Gun
-A Cyberman uses the Wannok to inflict a wound on Raven

Round 3: T1 wins initiative
-Norman tries to inflict 3 wounds on Kori, but Superboy protects her, taking a wound himself
-Norman then inflicts 3 wounds on Kori anyways
-Kori inflicts a wound on Norman
-Raven moves a wound from herself to Norman, taking him out
-War Machine takes out Dick
-Kori takes out War Machine
-A Cyberman inflicts a wound on Raven
-Superboy takes out a Cyberman
-A Cyberman uses the Wannok to put a wound on Raven

Round 4: T2 wins initiative
-Raven takes out a Cyberman
-A Cyberman takes out Superboy
-Raven moves a wound from herself to a Cyberman, killing it
-Kori takes out a Cyberman
-A Cyberman uses the Wannok to put a wound on Raven

Round 5: T2 wins initiative
-Raven moves 2 wounds from Starfire to herself
-Raven moves a wound from herself to a Cyberman, killing it
-Kori takes out a Cyberman

Round 6: T2 wins initiative
-Raven takes out the last Cyberman


Special power usages:
Human Resources: 0 successful captures
Cyber-Conversion: 0 wounds inflicted
Cyber-Conversion: 0 figures converted

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Starfire (1/5 wounds), Raven (3/5 wounds)

Post-game thoughts: The Cybers were just too slow to be effective on this map. IP and WM actually had the Titans nice and softened up for conversion, but the Titans were able to outrun their demise.

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Army Test 2
Map: Dracula’s Castle (Custom Map w/ Glyph of Wannok
Units: Team 1 (800): Cyber-Conversion Unit x2 (80), Cybermen x3 (360), Civilians x2 (90), Werewolf By Night (270)
Team 2 (800): Captain America (240), Bucky (60), Archangel (260), Nebula (240)

Pre-game thoughts: The Civilians have signed up for some voluntary Cyber-Conversion. Werewolf is going to be on cleanup duty after the Cybermen have fallen.

Summary of the game:

Spoiler Alert!

Round 1: T2 wins initiative
-Cap inflicts 2 wounds on one of the Units
-Cybermen inflict 2 wounds on Cap
-Archangel takes out a Cyberman
-A Cyberman activates the Glyph of Wannok
-A Cyberman inflicts a wound on Cap
-Cap takes out 2 Cybermen with a shield throw
-Cybermen abduct Cap
-A Civilian is converted

Round 2: T1 wins initiative
-Archangel takes out a Cyberman
-Cybermen inflict 3 wounds on Archangel
-Archangel inflicts a wound on a Cyber-Conversion Unit
-Cybermen inflict 2 wounds on Archangel
-Archangel takes out a Cyberman
-Cybermen abduct Archangel
-T2 had OM3 on Archangel, so they lose a turn
-Cap and Archangel are converted
-A Cyberman uses the Wannok to inflict a wound on Bucky

Round 3: T2 wins initiative
-Nebula takes out a Cyberman
-Cybermen take out Bucky
-A Cybermen inflicts a wound on Nebula
-T2 had OM2 on Bucky so they lose a turn
-Cybermen quickly finish off Nebula


Special power usages:
Human Resources: 2 successful captures (Cap abducted with 3 wounds, Archangel abducted with 5 wounds)
Cyber-Conversion: 3 wounds inflicted on enemies (2 on Cap, 1 on Archangel), 1 wounds inflicted on allies (1 on Civilians)
Cyber-Conversion: 2 enemy figures converted, 1 allied figures converted

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Cyber-Conversion Unit (2/3 wounds), Cyber-Conversion Unit (2/3 wounds), Cybermen (6 figures), Civilians (7 figures), Werewolf (0/5 wounds)

Post-game thoughts: The battle was started much closer to the SZs this time, allowing the Cybermen to mobilize much faster. Still, an impressive showing, and capturing Cap and Archangel definitely felt powerful. There was an attempted rescue mission for Cap, but T2 just got really bad die rolls and couldn’t take out the Unit in time.

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Army Test 3
Map: Dracula’s Castle (Custom Map w/ Glyph of Wannok
Units: Team 1 ((800): Cyber-Conversion Unit x2 (80), Cybermen x3 (360), Civilians x2 (90), Werewolf By Night (270)
Team 2 (800): Red Skull (250), HYDRA Agents x3 (240), Crossbones (160), Hawkeye (150)

Pre-game thoughts: Trying them up against some squaddies.

Summary of the game:

Spoiler Alert!

Round 1: T2 wins initiative
-Cybermen take out 3 Agents
-Agents take out a Cyberman
-Skull activates the Glyph of Wannok
-Skull takes out 2 Cybermen with his Lugers
-A Cyberman inflicts a wound on Skull, causing him to drop the Cube
-Hawkeye takes out 2 Cybermen
-Cybermen inflict 3 wounds on Skull
-2 Civilians are turned into Cybermen
-Skull uses the Wannok to take out a Cyberman

Round 2: T2 wins initiative
-Skull inflicts 2 wounds on a CCU with his Lugers
-Cybermen take out Skull and an Agent
-Hawkeye takes out a Cyberman and a CCU
-A Cyberman activates the Wannok
-Cybermen take out 2 Agents
-Cybermen capture an Agent
-Hawkeye takes out 2 Cybermen
-Cybermen take out 2 Agents
-Cybermen use the Wannok to inflict a wound on an Agent
-An Agent is converted

Round 3: T2 wins initiative
-Agents take out a Cyberman
-Cybermen take out 2 Agents
-Hawkeye inflicts 2 wounds on a CCU
-Cybermen inflict a wound on Hawkeye and remove OM3 from his card
-Werewolf picks up the Cube
-A Civilian is converted

Round 4: T1 wins initiative
-Cybermen inflict a wound on Hawkeye
-Hawkeye takes out a Cyberman
-Cybermen take out Hawkeye
-Crossbones takes out a Cyberman
-Werewolf activates the Wannok
-Crossbones inflicts 3 wounds on Werewolf, causing him to drop the Cube
-A Civilian is converted
-Werewolf uses the Wannok to inflict a wound on Crossbones

Round 5: T1 wins initiative
-Werewolf picks up the Cube
-Werewolf moves a wound from himself to Crossbones with the Cube
-Werewolf takes out Crossbones
-Werewolf takes out the last Agent


Special power usages:
Human Resources: 1 successful captures (1 HYDRA Agent)
Cyber-Conversion: 1 wounds inflicted on enemies (1 on a HYDRA Agent), 4 wounds inflicted on allies (4 on Civilians)
Cyber-Conversion: 1 enemy figures converted (1 HYDRA Agent), 4 allied figures converted (4 Civilians)

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Cyber-Conversion Unit (2/3 wounds), 2 Cybermen, 4 Civilians, Werewolf (1/5 wounds)

Post-game thoughts: Didn’t get great use out of Skull here, but still a bit of a steamroll.

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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Definitely needs to go up in cost. I think Civies are the optimal pairing here, and I’m pretty okay with that thematically.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: Really happy with how it feels. It just plays exactly how I was imagining it should, and seeing your own figures slowly drained and converted really hits that body horror aesthetic.

Thinking about doubling the cost to 80. A single Cyberman costs 40 points, so once you bring 1 back you've essentially got an even ROI, and Civilians make it super easy to bring Cybermen back.

[MrNobody]

I'd like to call a VOTE for Public Playtesting @80.

[Arch-vile]

Definitely a strong showing with Civilians. Probably best to focus there in public testing. yea

[MrNobody]

For sure. I also just processed today that Nebula could bond with them. That seems like a really nifty combo.

[IAmBatman]

yea

[Tornado]

Yea

[Lord Pyre]

yea