Public Design Workshop

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[quote=Ronin;2004400]

Originally Posted by Tornado

Illyria's great! She's one of those characters I've tinkered with from time to time, but I've never been able to pin down a design I really like.

I feel like the biggest problem with doing Illyria is that there's two or three different versions you could do, and it could be tempting to try and do an all encompassing Illyria which would be really hard.

OG Illyria - an Event Hero with the full time space manipulation abilities as she first appeared. This Illyria would probably have Ruler as her class, with something like Arrogant for her personality.

Close Combat Illyria - Illyria with most of her powers drained who acts as the ultimate fighter who's indestructible, unstoppable, and angry as hell. This would be the Illyria pictured in the panel above. This Illyria would probably have Fighter or Brawler as her class, with Angry or Unstable as her personality.

Compassionate Illyria - Illyria after she gets back her power and gains humanity and emotions like a real person. An Illyria with full blue hair, Time warping abilities, and maybe some type of protective ability. This Illyria would probably have Protector or something as her class, with something like Compassionate or something as her personality.

[Tornado]

Those are my thoughts, pretty much exactly.
I would be most interested in creating a version when she was 'leaking power'.
Of course this is a severely narrow version and one I believe only appeared on TV and not in the comics which may not be accepted.
I would probably go with Combat version. Does she consider Spike a 'pet' while in Combat mode?
What would her species be?

[japes]

Originally Posted by Soundwarp SG-1

Is Crash Collision supposed to work outside of his turn? I believe it does as currently worded. Might make him a pretty good option with Manhunter, since he can just move back and forth to the same space he started in. I believe he can also add the Sonic Flying bonus too. Even though he can't move more than the static 4 spaces, there's nothing stopping him from adding to his move number anyway.

I never took that into account. Do you think this would make him overpowered at all or since some think he is lower than I thought and this would get him to the 150-170 ish cost?

[Tornado]

I doubt it. With the MM strategy, Nova will have 3 Defense all the time after the first CC14(which may be difficult to keep track of without a marker). 4 Life and 3 Defense and a need to be in the thick of things will spell an early death.

[Soundwarp SG-1]

Originally Posted by japes

I never took that into account. Do you think this would make him overpowered at all or since some think he is lower than I thought and this would get him to the 150-170 ish cost?

I doubt it would be overpowered, he is still stuck with Reckless Action which is pretty much pure negative, especially in the MM army. Still, giving MM what is basically 'roll a 11 or higher a few times, give 1 or more people 2 wounds' is pretty good.

If it does prove too powerful, an easy tweak (that still leaves the MM synergy) would be to change the 'move 3 spaces' bit to 'ends his move on a space at least 3 spaces away from his starting position'. That makes it so he can't just do it to the same guy every turn with MM. Feels more thematic anyway, he has to actually build up momentum, instead of just hopping back and forth. Finding a way to limit the Sonic Flying bonus to only normal movement or something could also tone him down if needed.

The power needs some re-wording anyway, you can't engage destructible objects as far as I know. The bit about the Sonic Flying bonus needs to be clearer too, right now it sounds like it gives everyone adjacent to him a wound regardless of if he rolled an 11 or higher for that figure (or if he even rolled against them at all).

Originally Posted by Tornado

I doubt it. With the MM strategy, Nova will have 3 Defense all the time after the first CC14(which may be difficult to keep track of without a marker). 4 Life and 3 Defense and a need to be in the thick of things will spell an early death.

Err... why would he have 3 defense? I don't see anything about defense subtraction in CC14.

[japes]

Originally Posted by Soundwarp SG-1

If it does prove too powerful, an easy tweak (that still leaves the MM synergy) would be to change the 'move 3 spaces' bit to 'ends his move on a space at least 3 spaces away from his starting position'. That makes it so he can't just do it to the same guy every turn with MM. Feels more thematic anyway, he has to actually build up momentum, instead of just hopping back and forth. Finding a way to limit the Sonic Flying bonus to only normal movement or something could also tone him down if needed.

The power needs some re-wording anyway, you can't engage destructible objects as far as I know. The bit about the Sonic Flying bonus needs to be clearer too, right now it sounds like it gives everyone adjacent to him a wound regardless of if he rolled an 11 or higher for that figure (or if he even rolled against them at all).

Good information in here and the bold part above was my actual intent so I will reword this a bit.

[japes]

CRASH COLLISION 14
If Nova ends his move on a space at least 3 spaces away from his starting position after using his Flying special power, he may choose Crash Collision 14. If he chooses to Crash Collision 14, Nova must immediately roll the 20-sided die once for each figure or destructible object he is adjacent to. If you roll 14 or higher, that figure or destructible object receives one wound. If Nova moved using his Sonic Flying special power, add 3 to the roll and all adjacent figures and destructible objects receive one additional wound.

[Soundwarp SG-1]

That version effects friendly figures, where the first one couldn't, not sure if you want it to work that way.

[japes]

I'm fine with it hitting friendlies as well as it seems more thematic...he can't control who gets hurt when he crashes into something.

[Ronin]

Originally Posted by laughing matter

I feel like the biggest problem with doing Illyria is that there's two or three different versions you could do, and it could be tempting to try and do an all encompassing Illyria which would be really hard.

OG Illyria - an Event Hero with the full time space manipulation abilities as she first appeared. This Illyria would probably have Ruler as her class, with something like Arrogant for her personality.

Close Combat Illyria - Illyria with most of her powers drained who acts as the ultimate fighter who's indestructible, unstoppable, and angry as hell. This would be the Illyria pictured in the panel above. This Illyria would probably have Fighter or Brawler as her class, with Angry or Unstable as her personality.

Compassionate Illyria - Illyria after she gets back her power and gains humanity and emotions like a real person. An Illyria with full blue hair, Time warping abilities, and maybe some type of protective ability. This Illyria would probably have Protector or something as her class, with something like Compassionate or something as her personality.

Yeah, the fluctuating powers are really what make it tricky. I think the best way to go might be shooting for the full power level and trying to find a Class/Personality that worked well for either the pre- or post-reform era Illyria. Using 'Old One' as a Class might work (and then something like Arrogant or Proud for her Personality).

Originally Posted by Tornado

Those are my thoughts, pretty much exactly.
I would be most interested in creating a version when she was 'leaking power'.
Of course this is a severely narrow version and one I believe only appeared on TV and not in the comics which may not be accepted.
I would probably go with Combat version. Does she consider Spike a 'pet' while in Combat mode?
What would her species be?

Agreed; the unstable-power version was the first one I tried to take down, but the TV-only/narrow time period seemed kinda sketchy. I think Demon would work best for the Species (IIRC, Fred's body is mostly hollowed out/not really there anymore, so she shouldn't really count as Human).

[bsbush7690]

I have been reading DC The New 52 and with the new addition of the Crime Syndicate to Trinity War heroclix I wanted to take a shot at some possible designs. These are very new somewhat rough first drafts of the ones I've done so far, so let me know what you think and we can make some changes as needed.

Owlman

Spoiler Alert!

NAME = OWLMAN
SECRET IDENTITY = THOMAS WAYNE JR.
SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = CRIMELORD
PERSONALITY = DETERMINED
SIZE/HEIGHT = Medium 4

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 5
DEFENSE = 5
POINTS = 200?

CRIME SYNDICATE LEADER
After revealing an Order Marker on this card, before taking a turn with Owlman,
you may first reveal an "X" Order Marker on this card and take a turn with up to two other Unique Crimelord or Criminal Heroes you control within 6 clear sight spaces of Owlman.
You may activate the chosen Heroes in any order.

MASTER MARTIAL ARTIST
When attacking an opponent's adjacent figure with a normal attack, add one automatic skull to whatever is rolled.
When defending against a normal attack from an adjacent figure, add one automatic shield to whatever is rolled,
and all excess shields count as unblockable hits on the attacking figure.

RAZORANG SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 5. Attack 3.
When Owlman attacks with his Razorang Special Attack, he may attack 2 additional times. He may attack the same figure more than once.

Superwoman

Spoiler Alert!

NAME = SUPERWOMAN
SECRET IDENTITY = LOIS LANE

SPECIES = AMAZON
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = CRIMELORD
PERSONALITY = MANIPULATIVE

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 4

LIFE = 6

MOVE = 7
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 6
DEFENSE = 6

LASSO OF SUBMISSION
After moving and instead of attacking, if Superwoman was not engaged prior to moving,
you may choose an opponent's non-adjacent small or medium figure within 4 clear sight spaces whose base is no more than 10 levels above Superwoman's height or 10 levels below Superwoman's base. Place the chosen figure on an empty space adjacent to Superwoman. Take control of the chosen figure and take an immediate turn with the figure. Remove all order markers on the chosen figure's card. At the end of the round, control of the figure returns to the player who controlled the figure before using Lasso Of Submission. You may only use this power once per round.

WARRIOR ENGAGEMENT
If Superwoman rolls a skull against a figure leaving an engagement with her,
that figure may not leave the engagement with Superwoman this turn.

AMAZONIAN TOUGHNESS
When rolling defense dice against a normal attack from a non-adjacent figure, Superwoman always adds one automatic shield to whatever is rolled.

FLYING
SUPER STRENGTH

Ultraman

Spoiler Alert!

NAME = ULTRAMAN
SECRET IDENTITY = KAL-IL

SPECIES = KRYPTONIAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = CONQUEROR
PERSONALITY = SADISTIC

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 8

MOVE = 10
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 8
DEFENSE = 8

KRYPTONITE DEPENDENCY
Start the game with the Glyph of Green Kryptonite on this card. Ultraman may remove the Glyph of Green Kryptonite to heal up to 3 wounds. If Ultraman uses the Glyph of Green Kryptonite, remove it from the game. Ultraman cannot lose this glyph by any means unless using it for this special power. If the glyph is not on this card, Ultraman cannot use any special powers on this card and reduce Ultraman's Move, Attack, and Defense by 3.

HEAT VISION SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 5, Attack 2 + Special.
Choose a figure to attack and roll 2 attack dice, or 3 attack dice if the chosen figure is an Android or Destructible Object. For each skull rolled, roll one additional attack die. Continue rolling an additional attack die for each additional skull rolled until no skulls are rolled. The defending figure rolls defense normally. No clear line of sight is needed when attacking with Heat Vision Special Attack.

IMPOSING PRESENCE
Opponent's figures engaged with Ultraman subtract 1 die from their normal Attack number and 1 die from their Defense number, to a minimum of 1 die each


FLYING
SUPER STRENGTH

Grid

Spoiler Alert!

NAME = GRID
SPECIES = ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = COMPUTER VIRUS
PERSONALITY = MALEVOLENT
SIZE/HEIGHT = Medium 4
LIFE = 5

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 5
DEFENSE = 5
POINTS = 250?

MECHANOKINESIS
After revealing an Order Marker on this card and attacking with Grid, you may choose an opponent's Android or Cyborg figure within 5 clear sight spaces of Grid and roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 9 or higher, take temporary control of the chosen figure and take an immediate turn with the figure. At the end of this turn, control of the figure returns to the player who controlled the figure before using Mechanokinesis. All Order Markers that were on the chosen figure’s card will stay on the card.

CHARGED SONIC CANNON SPECIAL ATTACK
Range Special. Attack 5 + Special.
Choose 3 spaces in a straight line from Grid. All figures on and adjacent to those 3 spaces are affected by this special attack. Grid is not affected by this special attack. Roll 1 fewer attack die for each space Grid moved this turn. Each figure rolls defense dice separately. Symbiotes roll 1 fewer defense die against this special attack.

CYBERNETIC REPAIR X
At the end of the round, if you reveal an "X" Order Marker on this card, remove one Wound Marker from each Army Card you control with the Cybernetic Repair X special power.

SUPER STRENGTH

[Tornado]

I am not sure if the Heroes would allow another figure with Imposing Presence.

Is Lasso of Submission a new power? That reads OP.