C3G Unit Discussion - SSE S1 ; Part 2

[FreshFoods]

Could I use Negative Speed Force to disengage and reengage with the same target multiple times, and keep hitting them? Never used this guy but his power seems less useful to me than Barry or Wally's.

[Arch-vile]

Yep, that's one of the best uses for the power (the best is bouncing between two figures for 8 total attacks). And I agree with that assessment - Zoom is a solid figure but he's just outclassed by Barry at the same point cost. There are certain scenarios where Zoom's special attack is better, though.

[IAmBatman]

Yeah, unless you're trying to like crowd control Civvies or something, Professor Zoom is just outclassed by Barry and Wally. Super Speed and Speed Dodge and those stats is still pretty solid, you can just get better for his cost (and his leftbox doesn't do too much for him either).

3/B-

[Karat]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

Yeah, unless you're trying to like crowd control Civvies or something, Professor Zoom is just outclassed by Barry and Wally. Super Speed and Speed Dodge and those stats is still pretty solid, you can just get better for his cost (and his leftbox doesn't do too much for him either).

3/B-

[MrNobody]

I wonder how he pairs with Red Skull II? If you can get that 8 attacks per turn, you could theoretically brutalize 2 low-level heroes in the blink of an eye.

[IAmBatman]

Is brutalizing low level heroes something many armies struggle with?

[FreshFoods]

“Human -- the world is Grodd's place.”

[Arch-vile]

Grodd is solid but nothing special due to lack of synergies. He's hard to put down with his auto shield, and Cognizant Control can do some nifty tricks since it doesn't have a range limit (an enemy Human Torch should watch out!) - but it's far from reliable.

[Karat]

He's really good with the GCW but not so hot outside of that. 2/C+ from me.

[IAmBatman]

GCW and Telepath synergies are both solid. On a huge map with a D20 booster, this guy can be downright terrifying. Situational, but Puppet Master got reevaluated for less (and costs half of what this guy does, I realize). He's a pretty useful turtling piece, if not quite as hot as Mentallo or Puppet Master for the purpose. What he has over those two, though, (other than limitless range) is that if the fight comes to him he can take a few punches.

3 for me because he is a tad more situational (though one of the best big map units we have) but I'd go B+.

[Lord Pyre]

Grodd was one of my favorite figures to play way back when. He's still solid. The GCW are a very solid squad on top of it. Love this guy.

[FreshFoods]

I really like Simian builds and have played Grodd a few times, He's never disappointed me.

Grodd/Solovar/Detective Chimp/Gorilla City Warriors x3 is a very solid 1000 point army. Solovar and Chimp really boost your defense (if Chimp reveals OM 1, otherwise you want to reveal OM 3 and beat up that figure), and the GCW/Grodd are your frontline and just charge the enemy.

Having to reveal the OM on Grodd to use his mind control means I'm not using it often in this build, unless there's a figure I REALLY want to take like a Human Torch.