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Old May 18th, 2019, 11:37 PM
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Re: Public Design Workshop

You could always require an Order Marker on Black Canary's card in order to use it. Then it'd be +9 initiative.

With it wide open, though, yeah, you're begging to break Joker (I) with it. That's why, even if it's a bit hodge podge, I like a Class restriction.

Of course, the OM restriction for Canary along with the OM restriction for Joker would cap the bonus at +6, which isn't terrible. So that could help enough.

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Re: Public Design Workshop

A counter argument would be that Joker would really bring down the potential of a Birds of Prey army, though. As is, if Dinah requires an OM, I would generally place the OMs like so:
1: Dinah
2, 3, X: Oracle.

Joker needing an OM, and generally not wanting to use the X on him as a throwaway, greatly diminishes his appeal in a Birds of Prey army, since we're still talking single turn activations. If it were two turns per OM, I'd be more concerned.

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Old May 19th, 2019, 02:07 PM
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Re: Public Design Workshop

Yeah, I think adding an OM requirement for Canary to it does enough. Without that, though, I think you go the +9 initiative and "X" on Joker to the detriment of Secret Attack Plan, just because that effect is so powerful.

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Re: Public Design Workshop

I think Margloth has a point. Obviously anyone adding 9-12 to your initiative is going to play well with Joker, but looking at it I'm not sure adding a class restriction would really help that problem.

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Re: Public Design Workshop

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BIRDS OF PREY A
At the beginning of your turn, if there is at least 1 Order Marker on this card, you may move an Order Marker on the Army Card of a Strategist figure you control to the Army Card of either Black Canary or a figure you control that is within 6 clear sight spaces of Black Canary.
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BIRDS OF PREY B
At the start of the round, if all Order Markers for a round are placed on the Army Card of a Strategist you control, then you may use Birds of Prey for the rest of the round. At the beginning of your turn, you may move an Order Marker on the Army Card of a Strategist figure you control to the Army Card of either Black Canary or a figure you control that is within 6 clear sight spaces of Black Canary.
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At the beginning of your turn, you may move an Order Marker on the Army Card of a Strategist figure you control to the Army Card of either Black Canary or a Vigilante, Adventurer, or Warrior you control that is within 6 clear sight spaces of Black Canary.
Any preference out of these 3 variations?
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Re: Public Design Workshop

Gut says A, due to not being sure what all we have/will have for Strategists (that's what gives me pause on B). For C, I don't think it helps the Joker (I) problem at all, because you can just put the X on Joker and get +9 initiative at no real cost.

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Current Strategists according to the Index are Mad Thinker, Oracle, and Robot.
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Re: Public Design Workshop

Should also be Rocket (II), if you're using the latest - let me know if he's mis-classed as something else.

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Re: Public Design Workshop

I guess A or B work, as I can't really think of anything that could be broken in B (though I feel I might be missing something). A's more succinct, though, so that's a benefit.

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