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Old February 3rd, 2017, 06:16 PM
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Thank you all for your help. Here is the original graphic from yesterday (“hand drawn” version since that’s my personal favorite and y'all seem to like it too), followed by a tweaked version based on feedback:


Changes:

1) Smurf head logo facing other direction. Which way looks better? I like the original, but it could be just because I’ve been looking at it that way longer.

2) The figure’s size is now located by the hitzone graphic in a (I think) helpful and novel (for ‘scape) way. “Small,” “Medium,” etc. are represented by a single letter next to the number, so 6M in the example is “6 MEDIUM.” A couple of you asked about the intended audience. I never thought about it in a mindful way, so I’m glad you brought it up—I’m OK with assuming that 0% of people coming to Smurfscape aren’t already very familiar with Heroscape, so such abbreviations and use icons vs. labels should be OK with that audience.

3) Points moved and I present 3 options for representing them. Which one is best? Coin, text, pink piggy bank? (Yeah, I went there). I think the logical location for which ever representation we think is best is either in this bottom-left of the white area or the bottom-right. After narrowing it down a bit, I can show options in both areas. Other ideas I had for graphically representing points include a cartoony money bag, a gem, or a coin purse, but haven’t mocked those up.

4) Species is tweaked, color and font-wise but you all seem to want it in a more traditional location, so I will make a mockup of that for my next post.

5) MRAD icons slid up slightly. In the next mockup, just mentioned, I will show you what it looks like with them even higher, breaking into the white area, as suggested. When I do, it will make my “cheating” with centering the text vertically (due to icon height differences) more apparent.

6) Text size: Keen eye, @japes ! The left-side attributes were indeed below the 7.5pt minimum I want to use, so they're a bit bigger in this draft (exactly 7.5pt).

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Responses to your other feedback:

Icons: I don’t think the scape skull would work for attack, @jesus20456 , since the eye cutouts would interfere visually with the superimposed number. To everyone mentioning the range icon: yeah, it’s my least favorite one too, but I don’t have anything better yet. Bows, arrows, etc., aren’t “chunky” enough to put a number on them. @superfrog --I will look into armor for defense (or a portion of a suit like the helmet (oooh, oooh, maybe cartoonish VIKING helmet!))--that might just do the trick!

Quotes/flavor text: I’m glad this was well-received and will continue to include it on cards where it fits (and I’m able to come up with something—maybe the usuals in the fiction writers forum would help!)

Tagging other respondents not already tagged: @Tornado , @mcmeeple

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Old February 3rd, 2017, 06:48 PM
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Re: Smurf along with me: la la la-la la la!

The first version of the Smurf head looks better to me. I'd go coin for the points, I'd worry the pink from the piggy bank would get too clashy being right next to the figure art.


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Old February 3rd, 2017, 07:15 PM
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Re: Smurf along with me: la la la-la la la!

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Thank you all for your help. Here is the original graphic from yesterday (“hand drawn” version since that’s my personal favorite and y'all seem to like it too), followed by a tweaked version based on feedback:


Changes:

1) Smurf head logo facing other direction. Which way looks better? I like the original, but it could be just because I’ve been looking at it that way longer.

2) The figure’s size is now located by the hitzone graphic in a (I think) helpful and novel (for ‘scape) way. “Small,” “Medium,” etc. are represented by a single letter next to the number, so 6M in the example is “6 MEDIUM.” A couple of you asked about the intended audience. I never thought about it in a mindful way, so I’m glad you brought it up—I’m OK with assuming that 0% of people coming to Smurfscape aren’t already very familiar with Heroscape, so such abbreviations and use icons vs. labels should be OK with that audience.

3) Points moved and I present 3 options for representing them. Which one is best? Coin, text, pink piggy bank? (Yeah, I went there). I think the logical location for which ever representation we think is best is either in this bottom-left of the white area or the bottom-right. After narrowing it down a bit, I can show options in both areas. Other ideas I had for graphically representing points include a cartoony money bag, a gem, or a coin purse, but haven’t mocked those up.

4) Species is tweaked, color and font-wise but you all seem to want it in a more traditional location, so I will make a mockup of that for my next post.

5) MRAD icons slid up slightly. In the next mockup, just mentioned, I will show you what it looks like with them even higher, breaking into the white area, as suggested. When I do, it will make my “cheating” with centering the text vertically (due to icon height differences) more apparent.

6) Text size: Keen eye, @japes ! The left-side attributes were indeed below the 7.5pt minimum I want to use, so they're a bit bigger in this draft (exactly 7.5pt).

----

Responses to your other feedback:

Icons: I don’t think the scape skull would work for attack, @jesus20456 , since the eye cutouts would interfere visually with the superimposed number. To everyone mentioning the range icon: yeah, it’s my least favorite one too, but I don’t have anything better yet. Bows, arrows, etc., aren’t “chunky” enough to put a number on them. @superfrog --I will look into armor for defense (or a portion of a suit like the helmet (oooh, oooh, maybe cartoonish VIKING helmet!))--that might just do the trick!

Quotes/flavor text: I’m glad this was well-received and will continue to include it on cards where it fits (and I’m able to come up with something—maybe the usuals in the fiction writers forum would help!)

Tagging other respondents not already tagged: @Tornado , @mcmeeple
1. I prefer the the original smurf head. Keeps the negative space outside the "box"

2. I like this new version of the size. Seems logical.

3. The only one I don't like is the piggy bank. Either of the other two look fine to me.

4. I'm less traditional here. I actually dislike the traditional order. I like the Species linked with Class and Personality and Uniqueness segregated. the S, C, & P are all descriptive of the character whereas Uniqueness is descriptive of the "card/mechanic" if that makes any sense.

6. Combination of getting older and doing a ton of cards recently I guess.

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Old February 3rd, 2017, 08:59 PM
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I like the Species linked with Class and Personality and Uniqueness segregated. the S, C, & P are all descriptive of the character whereas Uniqueness is descriptive of the "card/mechanic" if that makes any sense.
I agree; while I prefer having all four in one block, if one is going to be broken out I'd go with uniquity/cardinality.
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