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Old June 21st, 2023, 10:51 PM
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Black Canary (Dinah Lance) (Justice League II)

Black Canary (Dinah Lance)



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NAME = BLACK CANARY
IDENTITY = DINAH LANCE

UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
SPECIES = METAHUMAN
CLASS = VIGILANTE
PERSONALITY = DETERMINED

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 5
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS = 190


CANARY CRY SPECIAL ATTACK
Attack 4. Sonic.
Choose 3 spaces in a straight line from Black Canary. All figures other than Black Canary on or within 1 space of the line are affected.

FISTS OF FURY
If Black Canary attacks an adjacent figure with a normal attack and has 3+ skulls, after combat, she may attack an adjacent figure again with the same attack action, up to a max of 4 attacks per activation.

EMERALD ARCHER ALLY
After Black Canary's ordered activation, you may use a normal attack action with an allied Green Arrow, during which they may only attack figures adjacent to Black Canary. Green Arrow has +2 to any d20 rolls for their abilities until the end of the turn.

FACTION = JUSTICE LEAGUE
PUBLISHER = DC
KEYWORDS =
SYMBOLS =
REINFORCEMENTS ARRIVE: Equipped with her sonic scream and aided by her partner's arrows, Black Canary brings the hurt to villains far and wide!

Resources and Rulings
  • The suggested figure for this unit is a Heroclix figure: Cosmic Justice #212 / Dinah Lance and #034-036 / Black Canary.
  • See this card's wiki page for synergies and strategies!
Credits
  • Legacy design: Whitestuff
  • Playtesters:
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  • Card art: japes
  • Comic creators: Dennis O'Neal and Dick Dillin
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Old June 21st, 2023, 10:53 PM
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Re: Black Canary (Dinah Lance) (Justice League II) - Design

Pretty much a straight translation here other than 3 small things:

1. Added to the Justice League faction
2. Changed the name of Cupid's Arrow to Archer Ally to make it less weird when you use it for Connor Hawke
3. Made the d20 boost work for any ability, so it's a good pairing with Green Arrow designs in general

I do want to find a better way to explicate in the Archer Ally ability that you can only do this with one Green Arrow, as I don't want it to be able to stack like it could in 1.0. (I think I accomplished this with the edit, but double check me)

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Old June 22nd, 2023, 09:11 AM
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Re: Black Canary (Dinah Lance) (Justice League II) - Design

Happy to see this one converted and I like the changes. Love this design and having the JL faction should get her used even more.

Wording based on Hulk's SA:

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CANARY CRY SPECIAL ATTACK
Attack 4. Sonic.
Choose 3 spaces in a straight line from Black Canary. All figures other than Black Canary on or within 1 space of the line are affected.
Made the red edit now that figures can roll dice in 2.0, and deleted the "any" in front of "d20 rolls". Same question I asked on Superior Spider-Man, is the blue part intended, so that the d20 boost does not affect items or any IJL type shenanigans where other figures force Green Arrow to roll a d20? It probably doesn't make much difference here just because the bonding is limited to the attack phase anyway.

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ARCHER ALLY
After Black Canary's ordered activation, you may activate an allied Green Arrow for an attack phase, during which he has +2 to d20 rolls for his abilities and may only attack figures adjacent to Black Canary.
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Old June 22nd, 2023, 09:14 AM
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Re: Black Canary (Dinah Lance) (Justice League II) - Design

Weird. I was working off of Hulk's SA. Not sure how the wording got different there. All good, though!

The blue is intended to restrict it to GA's abilities on his card, yeah, just as a shenanigan failsafe.

Updating! Thanks.

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Re: Black Canary (Dinah Lance) (Justice League II) - Design

The way items work now, I’d assume any item abilities count as GA’s abilities anyways. So not sure it matters.

Would probably be smart to avoid the gendered pronoun there too, just in the off case of a female GA design. Not planning ahead for future concepts was what made the original Cupid’s Arrow so awkward in the first place!
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Re: Black Canary (Dinah Lance) (Justice League II) - Design

True on both points.

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Re: Black Canary (Dinah Lance) (Justice League II) - Design

Not in love with the Archer Ally title as that makes it seem like it should key in on figures with the Archer keyword and not figures named Green Arrow. Not sure about an alternative currently.

Also, instead of "activating" Green Arrow where he can only attack I'd just have it give him an attack action. Not sure on what timing is best there...maybe after combat?

Everything else looks good at first glance.
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Re: Black Canary (Dinah Lance) (Justice League II) - Design

Went with Emerald Archer Ally for the ability title to cover that concern.

I like the full attack phase better because it makes it clearer that you can get the d20 boost when rolling for something like Arrows of Justice.

The 1.0 version triggers after a turn with BC, so no reason to change the timing there, IMO.

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Re: Black Canary (Dinah Lance) (Justice League II) - Design

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Originally Posted by IAmBatman View Post
I like the full attack phase better because it makes it clearer that you can get the d20 boost when rolling for something like Arrows of Justice.
It does also lock them out of some turn bonding chains, is that intentional? Seems like that's a bit of a change from 1.0.
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Re: Black Canary (Dinah Lance) (Justice League II) - Design

Hmm this is where it would be good to have a Robin done and know how we are handling Vigilante Sidekick. Ideally a Robin activation could stack.

The OM requirement on BC is a change for 2.0 but seemed like a wise one, especially with her, Red Arrow, and Green Arrow joining the JL faction. Am I being overly cautious, though? I’m definitely open to hearing that if it’s the case.

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Re: Black Canary (Dinah Lance) (Justice League II) - Design

Probably want to ape the Cyclops language a bit here then.
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EMERALD ARCHER ALLY
After Black Canary's ordered activation, you may activate an allied Green Arrow. for an attack phase, dDuring whichthis activation, Green Arrow cannot use their move phase and they have +2 to d20 rolls for their abilities and may only attack figures adjacent to Black Canary and have +2 to d20 rolls for their abilities.
For pasteability.
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EMERALD ARCHER ALLY
After Black Canary's ordered activation, you may activate an allied Green Arrow. During this activation, Green Arrow cannot use their move phase and they may only attack figures adjacent to Black Canary and have +2 to d20 rolls for their abilities.
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Re: Black Canary (Dinah Lance) (Justice League II) - Design

After sitting with it, I think the way to go is just to keep it granting a normal attack action (like Karat suggested initially) to keep it more like the 1.0 version. Leaning towards keeping it triggering off of her ordered activation only, though, to cover for her being added to the JL faction and for the wider granting of that d20 boost. That way you can't stack it with like a triple activation from JL Superman or something.

So looking at:

EMERALD ARCHER ALLY
After Black Canary's ordered activation, you may use a normal attack action with an allied Green Arrow, during which they may only attack figures adjacent to Black Canary. Green Arrow has +2 to any d20 rolls for their abilities during that turn.

Not in love with that last sentence if anyone has any suggestions.

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