The Spellbook of Tarot: The Magician

[johnny139]

Yea

I'm sold on the idea if you're liking how it plays.

I will say that I don't like the specific use of draft here for a variety of reasons - like, ways to recast old spells, ways to cast spells outside of the game, that sort of thing. I feel like it's too easy to workaround what should be a hard limit. I would make the restriction more like "You may only cast one Tarot Spell normally each game." or something along those lines.

[IAmBatman]

Agreed. "Draft" refers to a specific game mode that's not the only way to play. It's definitely preferable to avoid that verbiage if possible.

[MrNobody]

Originally Posted by johnny139

Yea

I'm sold on the idea if you're liking how it plays.

I will say that I don't like the specific use of draft here for a variety of reasons - like, ways to recast old spells, ways to cast spells outside of the game, that sort of thing. I feel like it's too easy to workaround what should be a hard limit. I would make the restriction more like "You may only cast one Tarot Spell normally each game." or something along those lines.

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

Agreed. "Draft" refers to a specific game mode that's not the only way to play. It's definitely preferable to avoid that verbiage if possible.

I see where you guys are coming from, but we've also never worried about that language on any figure design in the past. We've never worried about "well what if you use a power to pull in a Bruce Banner from out of the game, then you have 2 Bruce Banners?" I just feel like, if we're deciding to avoid the term drafting, that's a far wider-spread issue than this spell, and I don't see any particularly strong reason spells should be treated different than figures in this scenario.

And honestly, if a character has an ability where they can recast Unique Spells multiple times, I assume that would be factored into their cost and balance, and I don't see a reason why they shouldn't be able to cast this Unique Spell multiple times.

EDIT: Oh, and this passes.

[Lazy Orang]

Btw, chap, I checked the Tarot system and this card in particular over with my Mum, who as I said, is resident Tarot expert. She fully approves, basically saying that, while not exact, it gets the soul of it down and translates it pretty much perfectly for game purposes. So, full green light from the expert!

[Tornado]

Any comments on the cards I posted?

[Lazy Orang]

Originally Posted by Tornado

Any comments on the cards I posted?

All in good time, chap - I wanted to just give her a sense of what was going on and make sure that this card was good. Might take a look over at them later.

[MrNobody]

Originally Posted by Tornado

Any comments on the cards I posted?

I like them! I definitely want to feel out a direction before I get headset on any specific powers, but I'll definitely be going back to that post when I want to do the next card. My two thoughts were;
-I think it would be nice for some of the "pair" cards to have mirrored effects. So if Sun adds a defense die, then Moon subtracts one, or something like that.
-I also (coming from the perspective of using them with Xanadu) would probably try to sync some of these up with her respective allies. Devil with Etrigan and Judgement or Justice with Spectre, for example, if we can spin it in a way that thematically fits.

But I'm also of the opinion that if you want to run a card, I'll basically have no objection to whatever direction you take it in. If you want to make Judgement a Judge synergy card, I'm not gonna be the one to try and stop you.

[IAmBatman]

Fair reply. Precedent is precedent.

[MrNobody]

What are we thinking with points here? I feel like 70-90 is a good place to start, but I don't have much experience with trying to price a singular effect like this.

[Ronin]

I don't think we've done enough of these that any of us are masters at it. I think it might come in a little cheaper than that in practice (since it requires other spells), but I'm not confident.

[MrNobody]

Cool, I'll probably run it at 70, then just see how it goes.

[IAmBatman]

Yeah, a round of like Superman and Thor bonding is probably worth 70 points.