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Old October 11th, 2019, 03:41 PM
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Re: The Book of The Doctor (11th) (Initial Playtesting)

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NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: 11th Doctor

Army Test
Map: Island Plane Crash (No Glyphs)
Units: Team 1 (905): 11th Doctor (170), Robot (210), Oracle (110), Doc Ock I (215), Killer Croc (200)
Team 2 (900): Dalek Drones x6

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This game was meant to test out Fast-Talking on a squad as well as the Doctor’s natural Dalek resistance as a Gallifreyan. Fast-Talking can be incredibly scary when paired up with a tie-down figure like Doc Ock against squad figures, but the Doctor isn’t incredibly hard to attack and destroy, so there’s a nice balance. The worst part was negating the Daleks’ Flying on such a height-heavy map.
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NOTE: Lowered Attack number to 1.

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Map: Conflict Chernobyl (No Glyphs)
Units: Team 1 (850): Doctor (170), Zombie (120), Robot (210), Valkyrie (350)
Team 2 (850): Red Skull (250), Omni-Man (440), HYDRA Agents x2 (160)

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Some extraordinarily bad luck for Team 1 here; Just look at how many wounds the regular old HYDRA Agents inflicted.
I tried holding the Doctor back a bit to make use of his WW-TW and the Amulet, but I think things would’ve gone at least a little differently if he could’ve gone and gotten the jump on Omni-Man with Fast-Talking earlier in the game.
Okay, here's my first 2 games. I still feel like he has a lot of potential, but he's definitely finnicky. The big loss in Game 2 did have some major bad luck and bad strategies involved, but it still showed me that in his current format he's really going to struggle against real firepower.

I think his real strength will come in with ganging up multiple figures on an opponent's figure then Fast-Talking that opponent. They can't attack unless they leave engagement, and can't leave engagement without taking a ton of LEAs. Maybe a combo with Wonder Woman? I'm also finding Robot very useful for the Init boost/OM management/Carry, which are all things the Doctor seems to like.

Looking at these results though, I'm wondering if any changes should be made to make him more viable. I think Companions and the TARDIS will obviously help, but he should feel viable on his own too. The Sonic is seeming like the least fun part of the design right now. Not going to come up super often in most games and it gives him double negation when it does. Maybe that's where we should look to make changes? Any thoughts?
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Old October 11th, 2019, 03:51 PM
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Re: The Book of The Doctor (11th) (Initial Playtesting)

You could let it affect EQ glyphs.
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Re: The Book of The Doctor (11th) (Initial Playtesting)

I mean, a whole power that is a specific counter draft is usually not fun. It's either useless or frustrating for your opponent. Not know the theme of it, what else CAN the screwdriver do aside from remotely shut down robots?
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Re: The Book of The Doctor (11th) (Initial Playtesting)

Pretty much anything related to electronics. Opens doors a lot.
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Re: The Book of The Doctor (11th) (Initial Playtesting)

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You could let it affect EQ glyphs.
Maybe something that makes EQ glyphs misfire and inflict wounds on the users? That feels on theme.

It could/should repair electronics too.

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Re: The Book of The Doctor (11th) (Initial Playtesting)

So it's going to be niche no matter what? Then I'd say just let it be. Test him against guys he can shut down to make sure it's not too powerful in those niche cases, and it'll just be what it is.
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Re: The Book of The Doctor (11th) (Initial Playtesting)

Eh, if the Doctor is a sci-fi wizard, it's his sic-fi magic wand. It can do whatever the writers want it to do really, but it's mostly tied to electronic stuff, like T said. Lots of hacking, locking/unlocking doors, messing with robots, etc. The only things it can't really mess with is wood and "deadlock seals", whatever those are.

I like the idea of making stuff "misfire", giving him a way to deal wounds. It could have multiple effects, like the Cosmic Cube, to really cover the idea of a multi-tool.
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Re: The Book of The Doctor (11th) (Initial Playtesting)

Yeah, I'd consider changing what the screw driver does then. Like you mentioned it currently doubles down on negation, so maybe if it did something else he'd feel more useful in a wider range of situations. Kind of like the suggestion about messing with equipment glyphs, a variety of different figures that use them.
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Re: The Book of The Doctor (11th) (Initial Playtesting)

Well if you let him repair Androids and Cyborgs with it and maybe inflict wounds on figures equipped with or within one space of equipment glyphs, you could army build around that.

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Re: The Book of The Doctor (11th) (Initial Playtesting)

Could also have it 'hack' cyborgs and androids similar to how Dethlok does, then repair/heal those types of units too so you can draft him with an Android/Cyborg and it'll be useful even if your opponent doesn't have anyone to target. The little Robot Dog of his would like to get repaired I would think.
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Re: The Book of The Doctor (11th) (Initial Playtesting)

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Instead of attacking, you may choose a figure within 4 clear sight spaces and, roll the 20-sided die, adding 10 to the roll if this figure is Gallifreyan. If you roll 14 or higher and the chosen figure;
-is an Android or Cyborg Unique Hero, place or remove 1 wound marker on that figure's Army Card.
-is equipped with a Glyph, inflict a wound on that figure.
-is a Symbiote, subtract 1 from its Defense number for the rest of the round.
How do we feel about this? Still niche, but allows you to bring some things on your own to keep it useful. I added that 3rd option just because we have a somewhat consistent aesthetic of Sonic = Anti-Symbiote in C3G, and also because I can totally imagine them doing something like that if the Doctor ever met some of the mainstream Marvel characters. But I don't see it as super important either.
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Re: The Book of The Doctor (11th) (Initial Playtesting)

It can't do anything to organic people? With the name "sonic," it doesn't have anything to do with noise? Like could it create an annoying deterrence or distraction? Then enemies attacking the holder of the screwdriver could roll one less attack or something like that.
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