The Book of Bomb Queen

[Lord Pyre]

She's tons of fun! I think her capabilities are a bit matchup dependent, but that's fine. She obviously loves the civilians. Red Skull as well.



My only concern is that it's a real bummer when she flies forward guns blazing, but misses blowing up her own civilian with Rocket Jump. Especially when counting on that defense reduction bonus the next turn. It'd be cool to automatically deal the wound to friendly figures, but that'd be clunky to word.



But honestly it's a really minor point. You could just make sure 2-3 civilians are around her before the jump. We'll see how public testing goes!


I propose we move to Public Testing at 220

[tcglkn]

Yea

[Tornado]

Yea

[MrNobody]

Yea

[Lord Pyre]

Updated wording with some discord suggestions

[IAmBatman]

yea

[Lord Pyre]

This passes, thanks. Gotta wait for Sentry to wrap!

[Arkham]

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Bomb Queen

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Army Test 1
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Bomb Queen(220), Valkyrie(350), Ms. Marvel(350), Civilians x 2(90) (1010)
vs.
Star-Lord(250), Nebula(240), Gamora(300), Hawkeye(220) (1010)

Spoiler Alert!

Attack Damage:
R2T2(Ms. Marvel): kills friendly Civilian. (SA)
• 1 wound on Star-Lord. (-1 def) (SA)
• 2 wounds on Nebula. (-1 def) (SA)
R2T3(Ms. Marvel): kills friendly Civilian. (SA)

ROCKET JUMP:


Notes:
R1T3: Hawkeye puts 1 wound on Valkyrie.
R1T3: Marvel puts 2 wounds on Star-Lord.
R2T2: Gamora puts 1 wound on Bomb Queen, 2 wounds on Ms. Marvel, and kills a Civilian.
R2T2: Ms. Marvel puts 2 wounds on Gamora.
R2T3: Hawkeye puts 1 wound on Valkyrie(botch).
R2T3: Marvel puts 1 wound on Gamora.
R2end: Nebula heals 1 wound.
R3T1: Gamora kills a Civilian.
R3T1: Marvel puts 3 wounds on Nebula.
R3T2: Gamora takes 1 wound from LEA, then kills Bomb Queen.
R3T2: Valkyrie avoids LEA, puts 1 wound on Gamora. Marvel kills Nebula.
R3T3: Hawkeye puts 1 wound on Valkyrie.
R3T3: Valkyrie takes 1 wound from Gamora's HR. Marvel puts 1 wound on Star-Lord.
R4T1: Gamora puts 1 wound on Valkyrie, then kills 2 Civilians.
R4T1: Valkyrie kills Gamora.
R4T2: Marvel kills Star-Lord.
R4T3: Hawkeye kills Valkyrie.
R4T3: Marvel puts 1 wound on Hawkeye.
R5T1: Hawkeye puts 2 wounds on Marvel.
R5T2: Hawkeye kills Marvel.
R5T3: Hawkeye kills a Civilian.
R6T1: Hawkeye kills last Civilian.


Hawkeye with 2/4 wounds(2 life).

Weird game. Bomb Queen didn't seem to get the best setups so she sort of had to make do. It was looking like her team would still pull out the win, but Hawkeye managed to finish things out for the Guardians. Still, a close finish at least.

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Army Test 2
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Bomb Queen(220), Star-Lord(250), Nebula(240), Civilians x 2(90) (800)
vs.
Luke Cage(190), Iron Fist(260), Daredevil(200), Moon Knight(150) (800)

Spoiler Alert!

Attack Damage:
R2T2: 1 wound on Cage. (SA)
• 1 wound on friendly Nebula. (SA)
• kills friendly Civilian. (SA)
• 2 wounds on Iron Fist. (-1 def, SA)
-- 2nd attack
• 1 wound on Iron Fist. (-1 def, SA)

ROCKET JUMP:
R1T3: uses it to move, no adjacent figures.

Notes:
R1T2: Nebula puts 1 wound on Cage.
R1T3: Moon Knight puts 1 wound on Bomb Queen and Nebula with CD. Cage puts 3 wounds on Nebula.
R1end: Nebula heals 1 wound.
R2T1: Nebula puts 3 wounds on Luke Cage(botch).
R2T1: Fist puts 3 wounds on Bomb Angel, then heals 1 wound off Cage. Cage puts 1 wound on Nebula.
R2T2: Fist kills Bomb Queen. Cage kills Nebula.
R2T3: Fist kills a Civilian. Cage puts 2 wounds on Star-Lord.
R3T1: Star-Lord kills Cage.
R3T2: Star-Lord kills Iron Fist.
R3T2: Moon Knight kills a Civilian with CD.
R3T3: Moon Knight puts 2 wounds on Star-Lord(botch).
R4T1: Moon Knight avoids LEA, then kills a Civilian with CD.
R4T2: Moon Knight kills a Civilian with CD.
R4T3: Moon Knight kills Star-Lord with CD.
R5T1: Civilians put 1 wound on Moon Knight.
R5T2: Moon Knight kills a Civilian with CD.
R5T3: Moon Knight kills last 2 Civilians with CD.


Moon Knight with 1/5 wounds(4 life). Daredevil unwounded.

Match went similar to the last. Bomb Queen did some damage, but she just couldn't last long enough once the heat was on her.

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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY:
She's a bit technical in that all of her specials require the right setups to get the most out of, which aren't always gonna happen. Her potential is nice, but with the setups being tricky and it not taking a lot to take her out, I'd say she could come down 20 points. She'll have some nice performances in some games that exceed that, but I don't think that's gonna be the average.

[Lord Pyre]

Thanks! I don't mind bringing her down a bit in points. She gets pretty nasty when things work out, especially with Red Skull 2 in the mix, but definitely had some lackluster showing for me. Very cool.

[Lord Pyre]

Freshfood's tests!

Real happy yet. Two losses, but bad rolls in the first game. I think a thing to consider is when you get full value out of her abilities, she basically costs 245 since you're bringing at least one squad of Civilians. 200 feels good to me yet.

Originally Posted by FreshFoods

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Bomb Queen
Army Test
Map : Country Road (No Glyphs)
Units : RED TEAM - Bomb Queen (200), Lizard (200), Robot (210), Civilians x2 (90)
= 700

VS.

BLUE TEAM - Donatello (150), Leonardo (210), Raphael (170), Michelangelo (170)
= 700

Spoiler Alert!

Pre-Game Thoughts/Preview :

I wanted to run Bomb Queen in a lower point game. Her team has two heavy hitters with herself and Lizard, while Robot is there to facilitate some OM efficiency. The TMNT are a generally solid 700 army, so they should put up a good fight.

Damage Done (Normal Attack) : Used 1 times, inflicted 1 wounds.
Energy Bombs : Used 4 times, inflicted 0 wounds on opponents. Was used to take out civs for Demoralizing Sadism.
Demoralizing Sadism : Was used a decent amount to keep Bomb Queen alive, or help her Energy Bombs out.
Rocket Jump : Used 3 times, inflicted 1 wound.

ROUND 1 : Red Team initiative.
Red T1 : Robot carries Lizard forward.
Blue T1 : Mikey gets onto the road.

Red T2 : Bomb Queen moves in front of the ruins.
Blue T2 : Raph moves towards the bridge.

Red T3 : All 8 civilians move forward.
Blue T3 : Leo and Donny move up.

ROUND 2 : Blue Team initiative.
Blue T1 : Donny moves onto the road connected to the bridge, and throws Raph up on the bridge.
Red T1 : Bomb Queen rocket jumps but fails to kill the adjacent civilian. Scared of Raph, she just moves towards the other civilians.

Blue T2 : Raph moves to the front of the bridge.
Red T2 : Bomb Queen moves from behind the ruins and attacks Raph with Energy Bombs. No wounds.

Blue T3 : Leo and Mikey head under the bridge, towards Robot and Lizard.
Red T3 : Robot commands Lizard to meet Leo under the bridge and attack. No wounds.

ROUND 3 : Red Team initiative.
Red T1 : Staying on height, Lizard attacks Leo again. No wounds.
Blue T1 : Donny uses Staff Vault to cross the water and attack Robot. 1 wound.

Red T2 : Bomb Queen uses Rocket Jump but doesn't kill a civilian, so she just moves over 1 space to stay near Robot.
Blue T2 : Raph comes off the bridge and attacks Robot. A total of 6 wounds takes out Robot.

Red T3 : Was Robot.
Blue T3 : Leo leaps over Lizard and attacks him. No wounds. Mikey also fails to wound.

ROUND 4 : Blue Team initiative.
Blue T1 : Leo tears Lizard apart, leaving him with 1 life.
Red T1 : Queen uses Rocket Jump, kills a civ, and gets on the bridge.

Blue T2 : Mikey tries to finish off Lizard but fails.
Red T2 : Bomb Queen moves slightly closer to Raph to attack him and Donny with Energy Bombs. 1 wound inflicted on each of them.

Blue T3 : Donny vaults above Bomb Queen and deals 3 wounds to her.
Red T3 : Queen gets onto the bridge to get above Donny and uses her normal attack. 1 wound.

ROUND 5 : Red Team initiative.
Red T1 : Lizard removes 2 wounds.
Blue T1 : Lizard's healing wasn't enough, and Leo finishes him off.

Red T2 : Bomb Queen jumps away from Donny but doesn't wound him.
Blue T2 : Raph leaps and takes out a civilian.

Red T3 : Bomb Queen attacks Raph and two civs with Energy Bombs. She fails to wound Raph but kills both civs.
Blue T3 : Donny kills the adjacent civilian.

ROUND 6 : Blue Team initiative.
Blue T1 : Raph leaps over the adjacent civ and attacks Bomb Queen. 2 wounds take her out.
Red T1 : Was Bomb Queen.

Blue T2: Leo leaps onto the bridge, and has Donny attack the adjacent civ.
Red T2 : Was Bomb Queen.

Blue T3 : Mikey kills the adjacent civ, and moves forward with Cowabunga.
Red T3 : Was Bomb Queen.

ROUND 7 : Blue Team initiative.
Blue T1: Mikey takes out the last civilian. TMNT wins!

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Donatello 2/4 Life, Leonardo 5/5 life, Raphael 3/4 Life, Michelangelo 4/4 Life.

Post-Game Thoughts : This was a rough one. Bomb Queen and her team just couldn't get anything going, while the turtles had great rolls the whole time. Bomb Queen just couldn't kill any civilians to start, and didn't have any luck actually wounding the turtles. I think this was primarily just a game of one team having great rolls, and the other one very much not.

Army Test
Map : Country Road (No Glyphs)
Units : RED TEAM - Bomb Queen (200), Anarky (110), Ms. Marvel (350), Civilians x4 (180)
= 840

VS.

BLUE TEAM - Solovar (260), Super-Ape Mikhlo (200), Gorilla City Warriors x3 (375)
= 835

Spoiler Alert!

Pre-Game Thoughts/Preview : I put a loooooot of units on the board for this one. I think Bomb Queen will be most useful having a constant stream of civilians to nuke, so I brought 4 squads of them. Since the ape army lacks range, Anarky’s Incite Riot should let me swarm them, and let Bomb Queen do some blasting on the warriors. Mikhlo will be scary if he can fight through the swarms and reach any of the heroes, but hopefully he won’t make it that far.

Damage Done (Normal Attack) : Used 0 times, inflicted 0 wounds.
Energy Bombs : Used 8 times, killed 5 warriors and inflicted 4 wounds on heroes.
Demoralizing Sadism : Only used early game to help her defense against warriors.
Rocket Jump : Used 4 times, killed 2 civilians and 0 warriors.

ROUND 1 : Red Team initiative.
Red T1 : Bomb Queen Rocket Jumps onto the height leading to the bridge, killing a civilian in the process.
Blue T1 : 3 warriors and Mikhlo move forward.

Red T2 : 8 civilians move up.
Blue T2 : 3 more warriors move up, Mikhlo moves onto the bridge.

Red T3 : Ms. Marvel flies forward.
Blue T3 : The last 3 warriors move up, Mikhlo charges across the bridge to attack Bomb Queen. 3 wounds. He fails to throw her. 2 civs move up.

ROUND 2 : Red Team initiative.
Red T1 : Bomb Queen Rocket Jumps away from Mikhlo and a civilian, killing the civilian.
Ms. Marvel attacks Mikhlo from low ground, no wounds.
Blue T1 : 1 warrior moves on the road, while 2 warriors and Mikhlo attack Ms. Marvel. She takes 4 wounds and deals 1 wound to Mikhlo.

Red T2 : Bomb Queen moves forward into the water to attack two warriors with Energy Bombs. Kills 1 warrior. Ms. Marvel attack a warrior, no wounds.
Blue T2 : 3 warriors move up, 1 attacks Bomb Queen and 1 attacks a civilian. No wounds on Bomb Queen, the civilian dies and 2 more move up.

Red T3 : 8 civlians move up and 4 attack, 1 warrior dies.
Blue T3 : 3 warriors and Mikhlo attack, Ms. Marvel and a civlian go down.

ROUND 3 : Blue Team initiative.
Blue T1 : 2 warriors attack Bomb Queen, but she evades their attacks unscathed. Mikhlo kills a civlian.
Red T1 : Anarky incites a riot, but the civilians only kill 1 warrior and do 1 wound to Mikhlo.

Blue T2 : Bomb Queen luckily lives through another duo of warrior attacks, but 1 civlian dies to a warrior. Milkhlo whiffs his attack roll.
Red T2 : Bomb Queen Rocket Jumps away from 2 warriors and a civilian, but doesn't kill any of them.

Blue T3 : 4 civlians get beaten down by warriors and Mikhlo.
Red T3 : Bomb Queen uses Energy Bomb and targets the 4 clumped up warriors. She takes out all 4 of them on the first bomb, and decides not to use the second bomb.

ROUND 4 : Red Team initiative.
Red T1 : The remaining civilians move around and attack, dealing 1 wound to Mikhlo.
Blue T1 : The remaining 2 warriors are tied up by a civilian, so they stay in place and attack. They easily take the civilian out. Mikhlo kills a civilian. (The big guy has failed every Super Throw roll this game)

Red T2 : Bomb Queen moves around the trees and Energy Bombs the two remaining warriors. She whiffs the first roll, but easily wipes them out with the second.
Blue T2 : Was Gorilla City Warriors.

Red T3 : Bomb Queen Rocket Jumps across the river, going after Solovar.
Blue T3 : Was Gorilla City Warriors.

ROUND 5 : Blue Team initiative.
Blue T1 : Mikhlo fails to kill a civlian.
Red T1 : The 3 remaining civilians attack Mikhlo. 1 wound.

Blue T2 : Mikhlo lashes at the civilians again, killing 1.
Red T2 : Bomb Queen moves forward and uses Energy Bombs on Solovar. 1 wound.

Blue T3 : Finally forced into action, Solovar moves up and attacks Bomb Queen. She whiffs and takes 1 wound.
Red T3 : Bomb Queen Rocket Jumps away from Solovar but doesn't wound.

ROUND 6 : Blue Team initiative.
Blue T1 : Mikhlo kills the last 2 civilians, one with his normal attack and one with his (finally successful) throw.
Red T1 : Was civilians.

Blue T2 : Solovar slowly moves up onto the bridge.
Red T2 : Bomb Queen uses Energy Bombs and takes out Mikhlo. She can't see Solovar to attack him with the second bomb.

Blue T3 : Solovar moves up onto the bridge but is out of range to attack Bomb Queen.
Red T3 : Bomb Queen targets Solovar with both hits of Energy Bombs. 2 wounds.

ROUND 7 : Red Team initiative.
Red T1 : Energy Bombs, no wounds.
Blue T1 : Solovar inflicts 1 wound and takes out Bomb Queen.

Red T2 : Was Bomb Queen.
Blue T2 : Solovar goes after Anarky.

Red T3 : Anarky meets the challenge and moves into melee with Solovar. No wounds.
Blue T3 : Solovar fails to wound Anarky.

ROUND 8 : On Turn 2, Solovar takes out Anarky with a full role of 4 skulls when Anarky whiffed. Blue team wins!

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Solovar 2/5 Life

Post-Game Thoughts : Super fun game. Things were looking rough for Bomb Queen's team, but she had a huge Energy Bombs that killed 4 warriors andturned the game around. It still wasn't enough, but she singlehandedly kept the game very competitive. I was worried that things were gonna be a steamroll, but it ended up being a very good showing by Bomb Queen.

Thoughts on the Tested Unit's Cost, Balance, and Draftability : I was initially feeling a little iffy on her costing 200, but I'm with it after testing her. She put in a fitting amount of work for a figure of that cost, and being a nice round price will help her draftability. She feels balanced because of how heavily setup based she is. To get her full potential, you want enemies grouped up, and spend a turn Rocket Jumping and killing one of your own figures in the process. If you do this stuff though, she is absolutely terrifying. She feels like shes mostly gonna need armies centered around her, to fully utilize her. However, she can go without Demoralizing Sadism and still be a solid special attacker.

General Thoughts on the Tested Unit : Bomb Queen is really neat. Game 1 was a bit of a wash since her whole team had such bad rolls, but I think game 2 was indicative of how she'll play. I think the idea of the character comes across very well with Rocket Jump and Demoralizing Sadism, while Energy Bombs is just a good special attack with great offensive potential. While she is a little setup heavy and doesn't have any real synergy, her kit has such a cool and effective synergy between the 3 powers that I've got no problem with her costing 200.

[Lord Pyre]

I propose we move to Final Editing at 200

[Arch-vile]

Yea