The Book of Bailey Hoskins

[Lazy Orang]

Originally Posted by L0B5T3R

He could work nicely with Rover as well, I presume.

Feels like a bit of a waste when you consider Rover's other bonding options. Could work, though - gets him into place to use as a missile. Hmmmm... I have a feeling Angel might be his best friend.

[Ronin]

Yeah, I'm doing mainly small Mutant armies and armies that can chuck him across the board really fast. I'll try to have the initial up tomorrow evening.

[Ronin]

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Bailey Hoskins

Army Test
Map: Sacred Shrine
Units: Bailey Hoskins @50, Sage, Jubilee, Armor, Angel (Warren) (490) vs Black Canary, Green Arrow (Ollie), Catgirl, Speedy (Roy) (490)

Spoiler Alert!

Bailey gets used to bomb Team Arrow's start zone asap. He comes up with 5 skulls for Worst X-Man Ever and softens the Team Arrow up enough that the Mutants can clean up.

Unit Summary:

• Damage Done (Normal Attack): 0 wounds to Speedy in 1 attack
• Worst X-Man: used on his turn. 2 wounds to Black Canary, 2 wounds to Green Arrow, 1 wound to Speedy
• Damage Taken: destroyed by Worst X-Man

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Angel with 2 wounds, Jubilee and Sage unwounded

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Army Test
Map: Sacred Shrine
Units: Bailey Hoskins @50, Sage, Jubilee, Armor, Angel (Warren) (490) vs Hand Ninja x2, Cheshire, Elite League Assassins (490)

Spoiler Alert!

The Ninja spread out early and manage to come after Bailey. With some help from Angel, he manages to stay alive long enough to set himself up to capture a 6 Ninja in his blast, and he comes up with exactly 6 skulls on his Worst X-Man Ever roll - right in the sweet spot. Any more and he would have had to start hitting Angel or Jubilee for wounds.

Unit Summary:

• Damage Done (Normal Attack): not used
• Worst X-Man: used on his turn. Destroyed 3 Elite League Assassins, 3 Hand Ninja
• Damage Taken: 1 wound from an Elite League Assassin in 1 attack, 1 wound from a Hand Ninja in 1 attack

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Angel with 2 wounds, Armor and Sage unwounded

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Changed Worst X-Man Ever to the following:

After revealing an Order Marker on this card and taking a turn with Bailey, or instead of rolling defense dice against an opponent's attack with Bailey, you may immediately use this special power. Roll 10 combat dice. One at a time, for each skull rolled, you must, if possible, choose a figure within 3 spaces of Bailey to receive an automatic wound. You must choose each figure within 3 spaces of Bailey once before you may choose the same figure a second time. You cannot choose the same figure more than twice. After using this special power, destroy Bailey.

Army Test
Map: Sacred Shrine
Units: Bailey Hoskins @50, Mirror Master, Wolverine, Jubilee (520) vs Batman I, Nite Owl, Robin (Damian), Oracle (520)

Spoiler Alert!

Bailey gets chucked across the battlefield by Mirror Master to do some damage and soften up the Vigilantes. He definitely gets some wounds in, but that's actually the only damage his team scores.

Unit Summary:

• Damage Done (Normal Attack): not used
• Worst X-Man: 6 skulls rolled on 10 dice. 2 wounds to Oracle, 2 wounds to Batman
• Damage Taken: 0 wounds from Batman in 1 special attack, 1 wound from Damian in 1 attack, destroyed by Worst X-Man

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Batman with 2 wounds, Oracle with 2 wounds, Nite Owl unwounded, Robin unwounded

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Army Test
Map: Sacred Shrine
Units: Bailey Hoskins @50, Sage, Jubilee, Armor, Angel (Warren) (490) vs Black Canary, Green Arrow (Ollie), Catgirl, Speedy (Roy) (490)

Spoiler Alert!

Re-ran the first match. The tweaks to Worst X-Man made it harder for Bailey to catch a lot of figures in the blast here, and forced him to hit his own Angel (which was easier to avoid previously), but the overall results were pretty similar-looking. Much credit to some lousy rolling on Black Canary's part. She really couldn't pull any skulls together.

Unit Summary:

• Damage Done (Normal Attack): not used
• Worst X-Man: 6 skulls rolled on 10 dice. 2 wounds to Green Arrow, 2 wounds to Speedy, 2 wounds to Angel
• Damage Taken: destroyed by Worst X-Man

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Angel with 2 wounds, Armor and Sage unwounded

THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Putting the initial on hold for a moment because I feel like he's coming in kinda hot - in particular I think his threat range is a bit too high, and the range on Worst X-Man should really be tightened down to 2-3 spaces. It's hard to spread out and stay out of his range when he can reach 4 spaces away in opposite directions.

There's always going to be a tendency to want to start zone bomb with him, I think, but as long as we keep his cost down in the range where he can be used as filler in a build not designed to do that, I think that's okay.

Update after additional games:

He's definitely feeling better. Might need some additional testing, but he's in a place now where he's slightly more apt to hurt friendlies and he can't catch quite so many hostiles in his blast radius. Probably needs further testing.

[Tornado]

I take it you Swift Carry Bailey on OM1 and on OM2 explode him?

[Yodaking]

Maybe drop the # of dice rolled to 9 or 10 and make it so each skull has to be assigned to a new target before any target can receive a 2nd wound. Along with shrinking the aura to 3 spaces, all that should drop his points significantly as he's coming in way higher than 50 points now. The Worse X-Men ever really shouldn't be priced higher than Jubilee should he? I mean Jubilee has always been a bit of a joke with her fireworks, but she comes in at 60 points and has been pretty effective for me in my games.

2W to Black Canary (95 points) + 2W to Green Arrow (75 points) + 1W to Speedy (30 points) = 200 points

3 Hand Ninja (85 points) + 3 ELA (150 points) = 235 points

Now some part of Angle's 90 point cost can be attributed to that success, but even so that is a really good return on investment so I can see why Ronin hit the breaks.

[L0B5T3R]

Nerfing his dice roll to 10 and lowering the range to 3 looks like a good place to start. He is gonna be one of those kinda swingy drafts.

Originally Posted by Yodaking

...The Worse X-Men ever really shouldn't be priced higher than Jubilee should he? I mean Jubilee has always been a bit of a joke with her fireworks, but she comes in at 60 points and has been pretty effective for me in my games...

I think the ideal cost would be 40 points, so he fits in nicely with Jubilee or Rover. I’d love to get him down to 40.

[japes]

Originally Posted by Yodaking

Maybe drop the # of dice rolled to 9 or 10 and make it so each skull has to be assigned to a new target before any target can receive a 2nd wound. Along with shrinking the aura to 3 spaces, all that should drop his points significantly as he's coming in way higher than 50 points now. The Worse X-Men ever really shouldn't be priced higher than Jubilee should he? I mean Jubilee has always been a bit of a joke with her fireworks, but she comes in at 60 points and has been pretty effective for me in my games.

2W to Black Canary (95 points) + 2W to Green Arrow (75 points) + 1W to Speedy (30 points) = 200 points

3 Hand Ninja (85 points) + 3 ELA (150 points) = 235 points

Now some part of Angle's 90 point cost can be attributed to that success, but even so that is a really good return on investment so I can see why Ronin hit the breaks.

That is what I was intending way back when. I guess I wasn't clear enough in my delivery and then I misread it seeing what I wanted to see and didn't realize that's not actually the way we have it. I'd be in favor of that.

[Ronin]

Originally Posted by Tornado

I take it you Swift Carry Bailey on OM1 and on OM2 explode him?

Originally Posted by japes

That is what I was intending way back when. I guess I wasn't clear enough in my delivery and then I misread it seeing what I wanted to see and didn't realize that's not actually the way we have it. I'd be in favor of that.

Yeah, that would be a good change.

I'll play it that way, plus the range down to 3 and the dice down to 10, for the next game.

After revealing an Order Marker on this card and taking a turn with Bailey, or instead of rolling defense dice against an opponent's attack with Bailey, you may immediately use this special power. Roll 10 combat dice. One at a time, for each skull rolled, you must, if possible, choose a figure within 3 spaces of Bailey to receive an automatic wound. You must choose each figure within 3 spaces of Bailey once before you may choose the same figure a second time. You cannot choose the same figure more than twice. After using this special power, destroy Bailey.

[Ronin]

Ran a couple more games and added those in. He can still get some damage out, but he can't catch quite as many people in the blast, and it's a touch harder for him to avoid hitting friendlies.

He still might need a little more reining in? I'd probably want to see a couple more games with him in the initial against a couple more different kinds of armies, but I'm sorry to say I've run out of time - I'll be hiking/having company this weekend and a lot of next week, so I won't have time to run more games for a while. Gonna need someone else to close this guy out.

[Tornado]

Could you post your results?

I am going to try to get a bunch of tests in this weekend.

[Ronin]

Originally Posted by Tornado

Could you post your results?

I am going to try to get a bunch of tests in this weekend.

I edited them into my previous results, just up the page.

[Tornado]

Doh, right on. Thanks.